Two MORTON families

[DaveHam9]

Hello,

name: George Morton
event: Census
event date: 1861
gender: Male
age: 53
relationship to head of household: Head
birthplace: Holmfirth, Yorkshire
record type: Household
registration district: Huddersfield
sub-district: 4 Holmfirth
ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity Holmfirth
civil parish: Wooldale
county: Yorkshire (West Riding)


I'd like a look up please for the household. Especially interested in the name of his spouse -Sarah or Hannah or George could be a widower.

There should be a 2nd George MORTON & family also about the same age and also in RD Huddersfield.

Deaths Dec 1868
Morton George 60 Huddersfield 9a 238
Morton George 63 Huddersfield 9a 226

Regards,

Dave

 

[p.risboy]

George Morton
Age: 53
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1808
Where born: Holmfirth, Yorkshire, England
Civil parish: Cartworth
Ecclesiastical parish: Holmfirth Holy Trinity
Yorkshire
Registration district: Huddersfield
Sub-registration district: Holmfirth
ED, institution, or vessel: 9

George Morton 53. Occ. Woolen engineer.
Harriot Morton 50. b.Holmfirth. (deffo Harriott).


No luck with any other George Morton in 1861.


Steve.

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello Steve,

Thanks for looking.

Now I'm stuck. Does it mean we have FOUR of them. I thought it was bad enough with THREE - married to Charlotte, Hannah & Sarah. :2fun:

Here are the three I was chasing in 1851 and my George is the first one:

1851
Civil parish: Cartworth
Ecclesiastical parish: Holmfirth
Town: Holmfirth
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Registration district: Huddersfield
Sub-registration district: Honley
Address: Holmfirth, Cartworth
MORTON, George Head Married M 45 1806 Overlooker of Woollen Factory Kirkburton Yorkshire
MORTON, Ann Daughter Unmarried F 22 1829 Kirkburton Yorkshire
MORTON, Wright Son M 0 (1 WKS) [Image is 1 week] 1851 Kirkburton Yorkshire

1851 Piece:2292 Folio:510 Page:36
Registration District:Huddersfield
Civil Parish:Wooldale
Address:High Street, Wooldale County:Yorkshire (West riding)
This is the George Morton you refer to as being another George - married to Hannah Wood. He has 4 stepchildren, surname Wood ranging from 17 - 6 years

According to the marriage record George was born in 1813 (younger than the others) and Hannah in 1812.

1851 Piece:2292 Folio:456 Page:17
Registration District:Huddersfield
Civil Parish:Cartworth
Address:Beardsels Row, Cartworth County:Yorkshire (West riding)
MORTON, George Head Married 47 Hand Loom Weaver Woollen Cartworth Yorkshire
MORTON, Sarah Wife Married 41 Cartworth Yorkshire
MORTON, Nelly Daughter Unmarried 18 Power Loom Weaver Woollen
Cartworth Yorkshire
MORTON, Betty Daughter 14 Nurse Cartworth Yorkshire
MORTON, Sam Son 10 Scholar Cartworth Yorkshire
MORTON, Edward Son 7 Errand Boy Cartworth Yorkshire
MORTON, Len Son 1 Cartworth Yorkshire

 

[p.risboy]

Oh oh.!!!!

1851 census.


Name: George Morton
Age: 45
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1806
Relation: Head
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Kirkburton, Yorkshire, England
Civil parish: Cartworth
Ecclesiastical parish: Holmfirth
Town: Holmfirth
Yorkshire.

Registration district: Huddersfield
Sub-registration district: Honley
ED, institution, or vessel: 4b

George Morton 45. Overlooker at woolen factory. ( MARRIED.).
Ann Morton 22. Daughter. b.Kirkburton.
Wright Morton 1week. Son. b.Kirkburton.


Steve.

 

[DaveHam9]

Yes, Steve, that's my George in 1851. Charlotte died in 1839. If married is not an error then who did he marry 2nd and why no spouse listed?

Also, my George was born in Kirkburton much further to NE of where he is living in 1851. The others were born in the area where they were living in 1851 - area west of Jackson Bridge.

 

[p.risboy]

Marriage.

Name: George Morton
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1842
Registration district: Sheffield
Inferred County: Yorkshire West Riding
Volume Number: 22
Page Number: 351

One of the many brides listed is Hannah Ridley.


Steve.

 

[DaveHam9]

I'd say that's too old and too far away. I think this marriage fits census in post #2.

Looks like 2nd marriage for both of them:

groom's name: George Morton
groom's birth date: 1810
groom's birthplace:
groom's age: 41
bride's name: Harriet Eastwood
bride's birth date: 1810
bride's birthplace:
bride's age: 41
marriage date: 30 Nov 1851
marriage place: Parish Church Of Kirkburton, York, England
groom's father's name: James Morton
groom's mother's name:
bride's father's name: Joseph Holmes
bride's mother's name:
groom's race:
groom's marital status:
groom's previous wife's name:
bride's race:
bride's marital status:
bride's previous husband's name:
indexing project (batch) number: I03078-8
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 993693
reference number: 164

George's marriage to Charlotte has no fathers name so I can't compare it to this one with father = James.

 

[DaveHam9]

So, question. Which of the three in 1851 best fit the 1861 census in post #2 ?

An overlooker is not a simple weaver. Is that my George in 1851 saying he is married knowing he will marry Harriet later in the year?

Two are not around in 1871:

Deaths Dec 1868
Morton George 60 Huddersfield 9a 238
Morton George 63 Huddersfield 9a 226


This will explain why one can't be found in 1861 but that leaves two.

Deaths Dec 1859
MORTON George Huddersfield 9a 176

There are other even later deaths so it's pot luck and too many to choose from for me to guess which one is my George to order.

There are three deaths in Huddersfield RD 1851-1861 for a Sarah MORTON and two for a Hannah.

Also

Deaths Mar 1871
Morton George 68 Huddersfield 9a 219

 

[DaveHam9]

I can't see a death for Len (born 1849) 1851-1861 and I can't see him in 1861 either.

This could be George & Sarah's son in 1861:

name: Sam Morton
event: Census
event date: 1861
gender: Male
age: 20
relationship to head of household: Nephew
birthplace: Kirkburton, Yorkshire
record type: Household
registration district: Huddersfield
sub-district: 4 Holmfirth
ecclesiastical parish: Holmebridge
civil parish: Austonley
county: Yorkshire (West Riding)

That could mean both parents had died before 1861. That means my George might be one of the two who died in 1868.

 

[DaveHam9]

Possible baptism for George with children named Betty and Sam:

name: Morton
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 10 Oct 1809
baptism/christening place: INDEPENDENT,HIGHFIELD BY HUDDERSFIELD,YORK,ENGLAND
birth date:
birthplace:
death date:
name note:
race:
father's name: Samuel Morton
father's birthplace:
father's age:
mother's name: Betty
mother's birthplace:
mother's age:
indexing project (batch) number: C08607-1
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 828128
reference number:

 

[DaveHam9]

Possible with the date fitting the George (b. abt 1813) who married Hannah WOOD:

EDIT: The father is Benjamin on the marriage record.

name: Morton
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 05 May 1812
baptism/christening place: INDEPENDENT,HIGHFIELD BY HUDDERSFIELD,YORK,ENGLAND
birth date: 04 Mar 1812
birthplace:
death date:
name note:
race:
father's name: Edmond Morton
father's birthplace:
father's age:
mother's name: Sarah
mother's birthplace:
mother's age:
indexing project (batch) number: C08607-1
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 828128
reference number:

 

[josie7644]

Emails sent, Dave!

Josie

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello Josie,

Thank you very much.

Yes, different fathers.

I notice one witness to George & Charlotte's was a John Morton and the other a Chas Fitton.

One of the witnesses to the George and Harriet marriage is a Jonn. Fitton.


Please see if you can find Sam the nephew in 1861. Thanks. Tackle this from all directions.

 

[DaveHam9]

Forget the Fitton connection. A witness to the marriage above the George & Hannah one is also Jonn. Fitton.

The George who married Hannah signed.

The George who married Charlotte and the George who married Harriet made his mark.

 

[josie7644]

Hello,


Deaths Dec 1868
Morton George 60 Huddersfield 9a 238
Morton George 63 Huddersfield 9a 226

Regards,

Dave

Hello Dave,

Here are the details of two G M burials in the last quarter of 1868.

Place of burial: Upperthong, St John
Abode: Gully, Holmfirth
Date of burial: Dec 2
Age: 60

Link to Upperthong –
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Upperthong



Place of burial: Scisset, St Augustine
Abode: Scisset
Date of burial: Nov 27
Age: 63

Link to Scissett –
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scissett

Sorry, no further info is given on either of the burial records.

Josie

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello Josie,

Thank you very much. Upperthong, Holmfirth, Wooldale all not too far apart. Charlotte's parents both died a bit further east in Newmill. Charlotte's brother Benjamin and family lived in Wooldale.


Scissett is a bit unexpected. Near Skelmanthorpe. So is this George spouse of Hannah WOOD?


Please see if you can find these two burials. Thanks. I think George the spouse of Sarah didn't make it to 1861. Well that's my guess at the moment if that is son Sam with relatives in 1861.

Deaths Dec 1859
MORTON George Huddersfield 9a 176

Deaths Mar 1871
Morton George 68 Huddersfield 9a 219

The 1871 is a bit of a puzzle because we have not come across a George that old before in the census found so far.

 

[DaveHam9]

Census listing in post #2 is there an address for the family? Wooldale would fit my George.


I've tried to find a marriage of a James MORTON early enough for him to be the father of my George and not having any luck anywhere from Kirkburton to Holmfirth.

 

[josie7644]

Hello Josie,



Please see if you can find these two burials. Thanks. I think George the spouse of Sarah didn't make it to 1861. Well that's my guess at the moment if that is son Sam with relatives in 1861.

Deaths Dec 1859
MORTON George Huddersfield 9a 176

Deaths Mar 1871
Morton George 68 Huddersfield 9a 219

The 1871 is a bit of a puzzle because we have not come across a George that old before in the census found so far.

Hello Dave,

The 1859 burial doesn’t show up, but here are the details of the 1871 burial.

George Morton

Parish: Holmfirth, Holy Trinity
Abode: Underbank
Date of burial: 1st Feb 1871
Age: 68 years

Josie

 

[josie7644]

Census listing in post #2 is there an address for the family? Wooldale would fit my George.

The address for George and Harriet is Holmfirth.Med (sic)

The Township is Wooldale and the Ecclesiastical Parish is Holy Trinity.

Josie

 

[josie7644]

I've tried to find a marriage of a James MORTON early enough for him to be the father of my George and not having any luck anywhere from Kirkburton to Holmfirth.

The nearest I can find took place in Almondbury, which is 2 miles south east of Huddersfield town centre.

Groom: James Morton
Bride: Elizabeth Jagger
Date: 25 July 1802
Parish: Almondbury, All Hallows
Witnesses: John Swift and John Turner

James signed his name and Elizabeth made her mark.