VIVIAN & LACKERSTEEN

[DaveHam9]

Marriage 1471/1884 VIVIAN CHARLES A - LACKERSTEEN ELLEN M - SYDNEY

The Sydney Morning Herald - Mon 29 Sep 1884 p.1
Marriages.
VIVIAN - LACKERSTEEN.-September 25, at St. Philip's, Church-hill, by the Rev. W. Charlton, Charles Augustus Vivian, of Woollahra, to Nellie, second daughter of the late A. A. Lackersteen.

Death 18103/1925 VIVIAN ELLEN M - ALEXANDER E - FRANCES E - ASHFIELD

The Sydney Morning Herald - Sat 14 Nov 1925 p.14
DEATHS
VIVIAN.-November 13, 1925, at 17 Greenhill-street, Croydon, Ellen Mary, widow of the late Charles Augustus Vivian, in her 71st year.

Seems to be no birth reg in NSW index for Ellen.

 

[DaveHam9]

??
Births Jun Qtr 1843
VIVIAN Charles Augustus - W London 2 241 mmn ROWE

Death 12290/1921 VIVIAN CHARLES A - JOSEPH - ELIZA - HUNTERS HILL

 

[DaveHam9]

Marriages Jun 1838
ROWE Eliza Liskeard 9 215
VIVIAN Joseph Liskeard 9 215

 

[DaveHam9]

Day Month 15-Apr
Year 1838
Parish Circuit Or Chapel Callington
Groom Fn Joseph
Groom Sn VIVIAN
Groom Age Minor
Groom Residence Callington
Groom Condition Bachelor
Groom Rank Profession Clerk
Groom Signed / Marked (S/M) S
Groom Father Name W
Groom Father Rank Profession
Bride Fn Eliza
Bride Sn ROWE
Bride Age Minor
Bride Residence Callington
Bride Condition Spinster
Bride Rank Profession
Bride Signed / Marked (S/M) S
Bride Father Name Ricd
Bride Father Rank Profession Capt of Mine
Banns / Licence (B/L) Banns
Witness Fn1 ?---
Witness Sn1 Peter
Witness Fn2 ?---
Witness Sn2 Peter
Other Information
Transcriber Notes
Transcriber Jenny Elliston

 

[DaveHam9]

No Charles Vivian on Assisted lists to NSW.

 

[DaveHam9]

1851
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGKF-3X8

Has Charles born Cornwall. ??

Not found in 1861 census.

 

[gibbo]

His obit don't help none with arrival

The Sydney Morning Herald (NSW : 1842 - 1954)
Thu 22 Sep 1921
etc
Mr. Vivian, who had been a sufferer for some time, was a native of England, and was a young man when he arrived in this State. etc

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/15967528

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks gibbo.

I've not checked PROV yet. Not found.

 

[DaveHam9]

Charles was a shire/town clerk.

I keep getting Constable Charles Vivian in Trove.

 

[gibbo]

First i can find him in 1874

The Sydney Morning Herald (NSW : 1842 - 1954)
Sat 20 Jun 1874
APPOINTMENT-Mr. Charles Augustus Vivian, to be a clerk in the General Post Office.

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/13340465

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks gibbo.

I didn't have that.

 

[DaveHam9]

Lots of births for siblings of Ellen Mary in NSW index.

Mother's and father's names get reversed. Alexander Augustus/Augustus Alexander and Frances Emma/Emma Frances.

 

[DaveHam9]

Another Charles Augustus Vivian died 1915. Trees for that one.

 

[Bootzy]

A Tree has Ellen Mary (Nelly) Lackersteen b 1854 Kolkata West Begal India

her father Augustus age 36 on 1851 census for Kensington has he was born in Calcutta – was Merchant agent for East India Co,
wife Emma nee Lacy 26 b Dalston Middlesex,
son Augusrus L C age 5 b St John’s wood,
son William G age 3 b same,
daug Josephine C age 2 b Bayswater
son Anthony A 7 months b Lambeth Surrey – died London 1852
plus a few dom servants/nanny etc

Augustus Alexander Lackersteen b 9 April 1817 Kolkata West Bengal – Anthony Lackersteen (1776-1824 & Helaria Charlotte Pinto (1787- 1854) – parents also born India

Father Augustus Alexander Lackersteen acquitted of assault 15 Feb 1851 London

 

[Bootzy]

there's this one for Charles Augustus Vivian
Newcastle Morning Herald – Fri 12 Feb 1915

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/138234347?searchTerm=charles augustus vivian

Charles Augustus Vivien age 6 on 1881 Buckland Monachrum – Devon b India to Aylmer Vivian (Lt Col in Bengal Staff Corp) & Margaret Agnes nee Patterson (married Limerick 14 Sept 1865)

Charles A Vivian Lt Col. of 15th Sikhs (Indhiana) died 27 April 1915 near Ypres – Ireland WW1 casualties

Brevet Lieut Col Charles Augustus Vivian b 28 July 1874 died 27 April 1915 Cemetery Menin Gate Ypres West Flanders Belgium – Findagrave

Married Mary Hastings Studholme July qtr 1906 Portsmouth

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Val.

The 1915 one is not the one in my tree but the one with several trees online.

 

[horse]

I keep getting Constable Charles Vivian in Trove.

If this is him this narrows the arrival a bit more..

New South Wales, Australia, Registers of Police Employment, 1847-1885:
Charles Vivian
Age: 24
Native Country: England
Date of First Appointment: 18 Jun1866
Date of Last Appointment: 1 Dec1871

Looks as though his previous occ. was in NZ. He is from England [image].

Image is poor, I'll see what I can do with it.

Geoff

EDIT: Correction

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Geoff.

I think the constable is a different one.

Oh. A policeman became a clerk in GPO. ??

Dave

 

[horse]

I think the constable is a different one.

Oh. A policeman became a clerk in GPO. ??

Do you still want the image datails?

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

Yes/No Do we know yet if the policeman and the GPO clerk are the same person?

Dave