WALLIS/WALLACE family from Ireland

[DaveHam9]

Hello,

Another go at this family.

Assisted to NSW
WALLIS Ann 27 Anglia 1850 Sydney and/or Newcastle and family Reel 2461, [4/4916]; Fiche 837
WALLIS Hannah 23 Anglia 1850 Sydney and/or Newcastle and family Reel 2461, [4/4916];
WALLIS Joseph 63 Anglia 1850 Sydney and/or Newcastle and family Reel 2461, [4/4916];

New South Wales, Australia, Assisted Immigrant Passenger Lists, 1828-1896
Arrival Date: 25 Feb 1850
Vessel Name: Anglia
WALLIS Joseph 63 Farm Labourer Waterford, (parents John & Hannah) both dead CofE
Relations in Colony: Sons Robert & William living near Penrith
WALLIS Ann 27 House Servant Whitechurch, Wexford, (parents Joseph & Ann, father on board) CofE
WALLIS Hannah 23 House Servant Whitechurch, Wexford, (parents Joseph & Ann, father on board) CofE

I don't know if Robert and William arrived together or not.

Death 7351/1867 WALLACE ROBERT - JOSEPH - ANN - PENRITH

WALLACE Robert Death notice 29APR1867 Death 55 late of Charleville, Mulgoa SMH 02MAY1867

The Sydney Morning Herald - Thursday 2 May 1867 p.1
DEATHS
On the 29th April, at his residence, Charleville, Mulgoa, of effusion of the brain, ROBERT WALLACE, aged 55 years.

I don't know if Robert married.

I have very little on William. This may be his marriage but probably not his death. That means there is more than one William.

Marriage 2718/1863 WALLIS WILLIAM - ANDERSON JANE - PENRITH

Death 6200/1872 WALLIS WILLIAM J - JOHN - MARY - PENRITH

Regards,

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

Robert arrived 9 Nov 1840 on 'Royal Consort' ???

Robert 28 Farm Labourer Protestant Read & Write Wexford

Hinnitta/Henritta/Kenneth ? 23/28 ? Farm Labourer Protestant Read & Write Wexford

Spouse Henrietta TAGGART 1817-1895

Death 6041/1895 WALLACE HENRIETTA - JOHN - UNKNOWN - PENRITH

 

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And another bumpy ride begins :2fun::2fun:

Ok keep up ....Robert Wallace

Empire (Sydney, NSW : 1850 - 1875)(about)
Wednesday 8 September 1869

On the 25th August, at the residence of the bride, by the Rev. J. Rose, Robert, eldest son of Mr. J. Hamilton, Fairfield, to Anne Henrietta , eldest daughtor of the late Mr, Robert Wallace, of Charleville, Mulgoa.

NSW births
V18491124 34A/1849 WALLACE ANN H ROBERT HENRIETTA
V18511617 37A/1851 WALLACE HENRY ROBERT HENRIETTA
V18553177 42B/1855 WALLACE JAMES A ROBERT HENRIETTA
V18421182 26A/1842 WALLACE ROBERT G ROBERT HENRIETTA
V18431100 27A/1843 WALLACE JOHN ROBERT HENRIETTA
V18471070 32A/1847 WALLACE EDWARD ROBERT HENRIETTA
V18521074 39A/1852 WALLACE CAROLINE ROBERT HENRIETTA

Ann H is the first birth in NSW and i cant find a marriage between Robert and Henrietta so maybe they married before coming here

Now i guess your going to tell me you already have all the above :2fun::2fun:

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks gibbo.

No I don't have any of the children. Didn't know he married until 10 minutes ago. Looks like I have reason to go to the library and look up some baptisms. :biggrin:

They married in Ireland I presume or on board the vessel.


WALLACE Henrietta Death notice 22MAY Death 78 at the Post Office, Luddenham Sydney Morning Herald 01JUN1895

 

[DaveHam9]

Robert was easy. :2fun: William is much tougher.

 

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:2fun::2fun:

So what do you think of this death index?

7964/1888 WALLACE WILLIAM JOSEPH DIED BLAYNEY BLAYNEY

 

[DaveHam9]

Much better than the other one in Penrith in 1872. :2fun:

The 1888 death is not in Ryerson.

The tree has no marriage for William. Looking in BDM there are just too many possibles.


4225/1879 WALLIS JOSEPH AGE 93 YEARS DIED BATHURST BATHURST

There are two sisters also. One of the sisters may have married a cousin.

 

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Possible death for Hannah

2668/1858 WALLIS HANNAH JOSEPH ANN BATHURST

 

[DaveHam9]

Yes, and I think she married her cousin.

Bathurst Free Press and Mining Journal (NSW : 1851-1904) - Saturday 1 March 1856 p.2
Married.
By special license, at All Saints Church, Bathurst, on Thursday 28th, by the Rev. Thomas Sharpe, M.A. Incumbent, Mr. John Wallis, of Bathurst, to Miss Hannah, youngest daughter of Mr. Joseph Wallis, Bathurst.

WALLACE John 29 'Patrician' 1854 Sydney and/or Newcastle Reel 2137, [4/4791]; Reel 2467, [4/4940]

Carpenter Arthurstown Wexford CofE Both ** Only Wallis/Wallace on the vessel
Arrived 31 Oct 1854
Wallace John 29 Carpenter Arthurs Town Co of Wexford John & Anne mother residing at Arthurs Town ChofE Both An uncle Joseph Wallace residing at Bathurst Good None £8 was paid came under R...? Regns.?

 

[DaveHam9]

Again, the tree has no marriage for Hannah or Ann.

No 71
William Jones otp Mount Pleasant County of Bathurst
Ann Wallace otp Mount Pleasant County of Bathurst
married in Church of All Saints by Banns with consent of friends ?
Eleventh October 1851 By me Thomas Sharpe
Both signed
Witnesses: Joseph Wallace of Mount Pleasant, Hannah Wallace of Mount Pleasant, Jno.? Do..? of Bathurst

Death 714/1902 JONES ANN - JOSEPH - ANN - BATHURST

Not in Ryerson

I have no birth or death for William JONES.

 

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William Jones :2fun::2fun: Another hard name to track.

 

[DaveHam9]

William Jones :2fun::2fun: Another hard name to track.

Afraid so. :2fun:

This is interesting. A daughter:

Birth 3274/1856 WALLIS ANNE - JOHN - HANNAH - BATHURST

Death 21132/1942 WALLACE ANN - JOHN - HANNAH - ORANGE

The Sydney Morning Herald - Saturday 8 August 1942 p.16
DEATHS
WALLACE.-August 6, 1942, at Orange, Ann Wallace, widow of the late Richard Thomas Wallace. Funeral at Orange 3 p.m. to-day Saturday.

married another WALLIS.

The Sydney Morning Herald - Tuesday 17 May 1881 p.1
Marriages
WALLACE-WALLIS.-April 21, at All Saints' Cathedral, Bathurst, by the Rev. Canon Smith, Richard Thomas Wallace, of Luddenham, to Annie, eldest daughter of John Wallis, Mill Town, Bathurst.

All Saints Cathedral Bathurst
Richard Thomas Wallace Bachelor Mulgoa Grazier full Ludenham Robert Wallace Hentietta Taggart Grazier
Ann Wallis Spinster Bathurst - full Malmsbury John Wallis Hannah Wallace Builder
April 21st 1881 By me Thomas Smith
Both signed
Witnesses: John Wallis, Elizabeth Jones


son of Robert WALLACE & Henrietta TAGGART Cousins again.

 

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You had the right death index for Joseph.

The Sydney Morning Herald (NSW : 1842 - 1954)
Wednesday 30 April 1879

WALLACE.-April 22, at Malmsbnry, near Bathurst, of inflamma- tion of the lungs, Joseph Wallace, in bis 94th year. Deceased was father of the late Robert Wallace, of Charleville, Mulgoa.

 

[DaveHam9]

We have no birth/baptism record for Richard Thomas. He is not listed in shipping record so he must have been the first born here but no reg. ???

Ok thanks. That solves one other puzzle - Malmsbury in the marriage I added to the previous post.

 

[DaveHam9]

Assisted to NSW
principal's name: Robert Wallis
estimated birth year: 1812
age in years: 28
native place of principal: Ballynamona, Wexford, Ireland
father's name: Joseph Wallis
mother's name: Anne Mullins
spouse's name: Henrietta Wallis
native place of spouse: Haytown, Wexford, Ireland
spouse's father's name: John Taggart
spouse's mother's name: Anne Maria Thompson
ship: Royal Consort
date of arrival: Nov 1840
volume: 35
gs number: 416877
dgs number: 4117092
image number: 01730

 

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Death index
15157/1903 WALLACE RICHARD T ROBERT HENRIETTA ORANGE
21132/1942 WALLACE ANN JOHN HANNAH ORANGE

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks. Can't find the full date:

The Sydney Morning Herald - Tuesday 25 July 1905 p.4
IN PROBATE.
(Before Mr. Justice Walker)
Probate was granted of the wills of ... Richard Thomas Wallace,...

The Sydney Morning Herald - Saturday 8 August 1942 p.16
DEATHS
WALLACE.-August 6, 1942, at Orange, Ann Wallace, widow of the late Richard Thomas Wallace. Funeral at Orange 3 p.m. to-day Saturday.

Perhaps they married as WALLACE - WALLIS so as not to appear to be cousins.

 

[DaveHam9]

Can you find Richard Thomas in a tree?

Wondering if someone has his birth.

The witness John Wallis would be Ann's father but I'm wondering about Elizabeth Jones.


Births
V18512706 37A/1851 JONES SARAH A - WILLIAM - ANN
V18522217 38A/1852 JONES JOSEPH - WILLIAM - ANN
V18541408 42A/1854 JONES MARY A - WILLIAM - ANN
V18544091 40/1854 JONES HANNAH W - WILLIAM - ANN

4559/1859 JONES MARY A - WILLIAM - ANN - BATHURST
5047/1860 JONES ELIZABETH A - WILLIAM - ANN - BATHURST
4816/1863 JONES RICHARD - WILLIAM - ANN - BATHURST

 

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A tree in Mundia


Richard Thomas WALLACE

1845-1903
Born: Mulgoa, NSW
Died: Orange, NSW

I cant find a birth index tho

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks.

That would seem odd that they would not register one birth in the middle. The first in NSW I could understand if he was the eldest. But there is a wide gap.

V18421182 26A/1842 WALLACE ROBERT G ROBERT HENRIETTA
V18431100 27A/1843 WALLACE JOHN ROBERT HENRIETTA


V18471070 32A/1847 WALLACE EDWARD ROBERT HENRIETTA


Just recorded as 'full' age in marriage and no age at death.