WALLIS/WALLACE family from Ireland

[gibbo]

Think i found Richard Thomas's birth under Walker

V18472838 32A/1847 WALKER RICHARD T JOHN HEDNA

Or maybe i didnt

Deffo didnt find it... that birth is about as wrong as i could get. Sorry.

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks gibbo. :2fun:

I wonder how they get 1845? If that is correct then it's curious there is no reg.

I'll look up the baptisms on film at the local library tomorrow and they should have the abode for 1843 and 1847. The family may have moved.

 

[gibbo]

Ok so where we up to, tho going by my last reply dont know how useful i'll be today

 

[DaveHam9]

Wondering if we can prove this is the right death - it's not Bathurst.

Death 11355/1915 WALLIS JOHN - JOHN - ANNE - SPRINGWOOD ?

John remarried after Hannah died.

Bathurst Free Press and Mining Journal (NSW : 1851-1904) - Wednesday 15 August 1860 p.2
MARRIED.
On August 9th at Evans' Plains near Bathurst, by the Rev. J. B. Laughton, John Wallis of Bathurst (formerly of Arthurstown, Ireland,) to Jane, only daughter of the late William Carroll of Bathurst.

Also, is this the right death for Jane? It's a long way from Bathurst.

Death 7104/1907 WALLIS JANE - WILLIAM - AGNES - WELLINGTON ?


Death 2586/1858 CARROLL WILLIAM AGE 57 YEARS DIED BATHURST BATHURST

 

[DaveHam9]

Rev. J. B. Laughton is Presbyterian so this seems a bit odd if this is Jane's father:

Marriage V18421332 92/1842 CARROL WILLIAM - CROZIER ANN - LG= RC Bathurst, Kelso, St Michael's, Co. Bathurst

William may or may not have married in Australia. Jane may or may not have been born in Australia.

There could be 2x William CARROLL. The only definite is the 1860 marriage.

 

[DaveHam9]

Children
5021/1861 WALLIS MARY A JOHN JANE BATHURST
5279/1864 WALLIS WILLIAM JOHN JANE BATHURST
5673/1866 WALLIS (MALE) JOHN JANE BATHURST
6360/1869 WALLIS (MALE) JOHN JANE BATHURST
6960/1871 WALLIS FRANCIS G JOHN JANE BATHURST


Can't be this one unless an error - marriage says father = William

Death 6947/1888 WALLACE JANE - JOSEPH DIED BATHURST BATHURST

Death 13897/1902 WALLIS JANE M - WILLIAM D - EDITH M M - GRANVILLE

Not in Ryerson so no age at death. No middle initial 'M' in birth reg of children.

 

[DaveHam9]

Oh. There are at least 5x William CARROLLs convicts in NSW.


And this but no birth for a daughter Jane old enough to marry in 1860. The William who died in 1858 in Bathurst is not this one:

NO.:2310
PIONEER:Bridget HOPKINS
BIRTH:1833 Dunmore GAL IRL
FATHER:Thomas HOPKINS
MOTHER:Bridget MOORE
DEATH:5 Sep 1915 Bourke
BURIAL:Bourke
SPOUSE (1): William CARROLL
Married 6 Nov 1850 Bathurst
ISSUE:1 Catherine CARROLL b. 7 Feb 1851 Kelso
2 James CARROLL b. 30 Jan 1857 Bathurst
3 Mary Ann CARROLL b. 21 Jan 1859 Bathurst
4 William Bernard CARROLL b. 9 Feb 1862 Bathurst
SPOUSE (2): Charles BELL
Married 19 Mar 1862 Bathurst
OCCUPATIONublican at Bathurst
ARR. AUS:1849 (Irish Orphan) per "Digby"
ARR. BATHURST:1850 from Sydney
RESIDENCE:William St
OTHER INFO:Bridget was one of the 4114 Irish Orphan Girls sent to AUS
1848-50. With her first husband dying and the second leaving her Bridget
brought up her seven children alone. Further information supplied.

 

[gibbo]

Oh. There are at least 5x William CARROLLs convicts in NSW.

Yeah theres a few of them. I've been trying to find something in Trove but its been a pain in the ..............
I'll keep looking :biggrin:

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks.

Buried at Bathurst:

CARROLL AGNES
CARROLL ARTHUR CHARLES
CARROLL CATHERINE GRACE
CARROLL ELLEN DURELL
CARROLL JOSEPH BERNARD
CARROLL LETITIA
CARROLL ROBERT
CARROLL WILLIAM
CARROLL WILLIAM


It's too overcast today for photos but good gardening weather so I'd better do a bit.

 

[DaveHam9]

Can you find Richard Thomas in a tree?

Wondering if someone has his birth.

The witness John Wallis would be Ann's father but I'm wondering about Elizabeth Jones.


Births
V18512706 37A/1851 JONES SARAH A - WILLIAM - ANN
V18522217 38A/1852 JONES JOSEPH - WILLIAM - ANN
V18541408 42A/1854 JONES MARY A - WILLIAM - ANN
V18544091 40/1854 JONES HANNAH W - WILLIAM - ANN

4559/1859 JONES MARY A - WILLIAM - ANN - BATHURST
5047/1860 JONES ELIZABETH A - WILLIAM - ANN - BATHURST
4816/1863 JONES RICHARD - WILLIAM - ANN - BATHURST

Two different JONES families:

V18512706 37A/1851 JONES SARAH A - WILLIAM - ANN

Page 3 & 4
Baptisms solemnized in the Parish of Wollombi in the County of Northumberland in the Year 1851
No 53 When Baptised: July 27th When Born: March 16th 1851 Sarah Ann daughtr. of William & Ann Jones Abode: Wollombi Quality or Profession: Butcher By whom the Ceremony was performed: John F. R. Whinfield

V18522217 38A/1852 JONES JOSEPH - WILLIAM - ANN

Page 40
Baptisms solemnized in the Parish of Bathurst in the County of Bathurst in the Year 1852
No 569 When Baptised: 1852 July 19 When Born: 1852 July 19 Joseph - William & Ann Jones Abode: Bathurst Quality or Profession: By whom the Ceremony was performed: Thomas Sharpe

V18541408 42A/1854 JONES MARY A - WILLIAM - ANN

Page 37
Baptisms Administered in the Parish of Gosford in the County of Cumberland in the Year 1855
No 168 When Baptised: Sixteenth of January When Born: 20th of August 1854 Mary Ann - William & Ann Jones Abode: Mangrove Creek Quality or Profession: Farmer (now deceased) By whom the Ceremony was performed: Alfred Glennie

V18544091 40/1854 JONES HANNAH W - WILLIAM - ANN

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Baptisms solemnized in the Parish of Bathurst in the County of Bathurst in the Year 1854
No 701 When Baptised: 1854 April 16 When Born: 1854 Jany. 5 Hannah Wallace - William & Ann Jones Abode: Bathurst Quality or Profession: Labourer By whom the Ceremony was performed: P. . Agnew

 

[DaveHam9]

The Bathurst ones fit in my tree.

I have a Jane JONES born 1845 I can't place in my tree.