Walter Willoughby DOUCE

[DaveHam9]

Deaths Sep Qtr 1909
DOUCE Walter Willoughby 54 N. Bierley 9b 95

I don't think Walter will be found in 1861 or 1871.

I'd like a check for any burial and probate record thanks.

Dave

 

[Ladybird1300]

Was Walter born in Yorkshire Dave??

1871 census

Name: Walter Dowes
Age: 12
Estimated birth year: abt 1859
Relation: Son (Child)
Father's name: Charles Kilner
Mother's name: Selina Kilner
Gender: Male
Where born: Heeley, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Dore
Ecclesiastical parish: Dore
Town: Dore
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Registration district: Ecclesall Bierlow
Sub-registration district: Upper Hallam
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Household schedule number: 106
Piece: 4666
Folio: 13
Page Number: 18
Household Members:
Name Age
Charles Kilner 32
Selina Kilner 33
Walter Dowes 12
Fredrick Dowes 10
Harry Kilner 3
May Kilner 9 Months
George Peach 27



Amanda

 

[Ellie7]

From a tree on Ancestry.

Birth: 12 Mar 1854 - Antrim, Ireland (Northern Ireland)
Marriage: 7 Sep 1877 - Bradford, York (Yorkshire), England
Death: 10 Jul 1909 - Bierley, York (Yorkshire), England
Spouse: Catharine Mcphee

No probate found ,nor burial yet.

Ellie

 

[Ellie7]

Name:
Walker Willoughby Douce

Birth Year:
abt 1854

Age:
23

Marriage or Bann Date:
7 Sep 1877

Parish:
Bradford, St Peter (Bradford Cathedral)

Father's name:
Walker Willoughby Douce

Spouse's Name:
Catherine McPhan

Spouse's Father's Name:
George McPhan


Ellie

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks for looking Amanda.

Census says born in Ireland but don't know when he came to England. I searched on FS and didn't find him. It's a name that is easily mangled.

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Ellie,

Catherine McPHEE born 23 Nov 1853 Duror, Argyll

Walter Willoughby Douce; Bradford, York, England; age 24; spinster; barmaid; living at Wharf Hotel, Bradford; father George McPhae, farmer;
Witnesses James Leggett and Sarah Barlow; certificate #292

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

I think the marriage and the death both have the wrong name for her father.

Death: 1926; 1301 Govan Road, Govan, Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland; usual
residence 125 Caledonia Road, Glasgow; Catherine Sands, married to 1st
Walter Dow, tailor and 2nd Alexander Sands, slater; age 77; parents Donald McPhee, farmer deceased and Janet McPhee M.S. Stewart, deceased; died from Hemiplegia; witness Annie Sloan, step daughter, 97 Kidston Street, Glasgow;
certificate #175

Marriage: 21 Jul 1844; John McPhee labourer, Mursherlich and Janet, daughter of Allan Stewart, Appin.
Batch: M115204


But where is Catherine?

1861
Civil Parish: Kilmallie
County: Argyle
Address: Murshiarlich
John McPhee Head 40 Labourer Kilmallie
Janet Wife 36 Appin Argyllshire
Janet dau 13 Forwillm, Inverness [Fort William]
Ann dau 11 Glencoe
Allan son 9 Glencoe
??
Alexander son 6 Kilmallie
Janet dau 4 Kilmallie
Donald son 1 Kilmallie

1871
Registration District: Kilmallie
Civil Parish: Kilmallie
County: Argyll
Address: Corpach Road
John Mcphee Head 50 Labourer Kilmallie
Jessie Mcphee Wife 46 Labourer's Wife Appin, Argyll
Allan Mcphee 19 Ag Lab Appin
Alex Mcphee 14 Scholar Kilmallie
Jessie Mcphee 12 Kilmallie
Mary Mcphee 8 Kilmallie
Flora Mcphee 6 Kilmallie

 

[horse]

Walter in the E/R in his last year, image shows his previous address where he stayed for some years..

Walter Willoughby Douce
Year: 1909
County: West Yorkshire
Parliamentary Division: Shipley
Place of Abode: 32, Norwood road
Reference Number: SHIP:9/3

 

[horse]

1881
Civil Parish: Shipley
County: Yorkshire
Street address: 30 Victoria Rd
RD: Bradford
Sub RD: Shipley
ED: 16; Piece: 4474; Folio: 111; Page: 6

Walter Willoughby Douce 27 [b. Ireland. Master Tailor]
Catherine Douce 28 wife [b. Scotland]

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Geoff.

Still trying to sort out Catherine's father and find her in early census.

Dave

 

[horse]

So, should that be Kilmallin, Wicklow, Ireland for father, John?

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

No, it's Kilmallie, Argyll.

Death: 1879; Tomonie, Corpach, Kilmallie, Scotland; John McPhee, crofter,
married to Janet Stewart; died 18 Dec 1879; age 61; parents Alexander
McPhee, crofter, deceased and Mary McPhee M.S. Cameron, deceased; witness
Alexander McPhee, son (his mark); certificate #61

We have John's parents from the above.

Janet's parents are Allan and Jane/Jean/...

 

[DaveHam9]

This is most curious:

Catherine
Baptized: 15 Dec 1894; Bradford, York, England; by A. S. Farnsworth
Confirmed: 16 Dec 1894; A. S. Farnsworth; parents listed as John McPhee and Janet Stuart
Above information taken from LDS Church records; Bradford, York, England;
1892-1919 item 4, 1905-1948 item 5; FHL film #0086984

 

[horse]

But where is Catherine?

At the risk of oversimplifying it, she has to be in Argyll her immediate siblings before and after were b. Argyll..

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

The other odd thing is that in later census when Catherine was back in Scotland it's born Inverness.

Two born Glencoe and one Fort William.

Allan changes from Glencoe to Appin 1861 to 1871.


I can't find the family in 1851.

I have this for Catherine

23 Nov 1853 Lismore (525) Appin & Duror

but I don't know where I got that.

 

[horse]

The other odd thing is that in later census when Catherine was back in Scotland it's born Inverness.

Two born Glencoe and one Fort William.

Allan changes from Glencoe to Appin 1861 to 1871.

If he went where the work was, entirely possible

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

Name: Catherine Mcphee
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1861
Gender: Female
Age: 8
Birthplace: Invernessshire
Registration District: Kilmalie
County: Argyllshire
Birth Year (Estimated): 1853


The only one I can find that would fit.

 

[horse]

In the 1861 they have a Janet b. Inverness

Geoff

 

[horse]

Something to ponder..

1861
RD: Kilmallie
Civil Parish: Kilmallie
County: Argyll
Address: Lochy Side
ED: 12; Page: 3; Line: 23; Roll: CSSCT1861_70

Christian Cameron 78 [b. Kilmalie, invrssshire. Crofter]
Christian Mcmaster 40 dau [b. Kilmalie, argyle]
Janet Mcdonald Nk visitor [b. Ardnamurchan, argyle]
Duncan Mcinnes 19 g'son [b. Kilmalie]
Catherine Mcphee Nk g'dau [b. Kilmalie, invrss]

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Geoff.

John's parents probably although he may have been born abt 1818.

Alexander McPHEE & Mary CAMERON
Marriage: 6 Feb 1823 Kilmallie, Argyll


2x Janet daughters - younger one becomes Jessie.

Dave