why did they move

[g d cooper]

My Coopers stayed put in Itchen Village Southampton but a lot of tthe families that married into them came from wiltshire about 1850ish Goldings Chalks and a couple more did something happen to change employment at this time to make necessary to move ???
Glen

 

[gibbo]

My Coopers stayed put in Itchen Village Southampton but a lot of tthe families that married into them came from wiltshire about 1850ish Goldings Chalks and a couple more did something happen to change employment at this time to make necessary to move ???
Glen

Hi Glen

I dont know anything about the area your talking about but do you think it could have been a mining boom??? Maybe new mines opening up etc. just a thought. Is there a common employment that has shown up on the census around the 1850's with your families in that area?

gibbo

 

[g d cooper]

gibbo most of my coopers were seamen or fishermen it's like every newname in the tree come's from wiltshire a lot from donwton wiltshire I thought that something may have stopped then so they moved on.
Glen

 

[leefer]

Hi..dont pretend to know your answer GD but Southampton and the area(my dads family are all from here) was a big landscape gardening and growing area..my ancestors all worked on the land and they would bring workers in to help them..if they were good more of that workers family would join them and basicly people met and got married while working together.Downton(i know well)used to be a very important Town in Wilts..but as nearby Salisbury boomed it became less important and as the industrial revolution took hold people moved on from places like Downton to places such as Southampton(Itchen) for work....The River Itchen was a big working river with shipbuilding and cargo carrying around the growing Port of Southampton.
As a side note if you drive the 8 odd miles from Downton to Salisbury the view of Salisbury Cathedral can be seen...in old times a walk or cart ride would have been met by this awsome view and the biggest cathedral spire in Europe,it really would have been like seeing one of the wonders of the world...it took hundreds of years to build and even has its own cemetary for the workers who built it...in some cases generations of workers(mainly stonemasons)are buried here...if anyone ever gets a chance to go GO!..it will take your breath away...regards to all Lee.

 

[g d cooper]

thank's Lee that makes sence all my Cooper's are seamen so I think of Itchen village as the river I did not think of farming I hope to be in England this year so I will go to Downton when Im there my grandmother's goldings all came from there .
Glen

 

[leefer]

http://www.plimsoll.org/Southampton/RiverItchen/TheFloatingBridge/default.asp

I love Rivers...all our heritage is based around them in Britain..as i said Downton is a small village in between Salisbury and Southampton...nearer Salisbury..a good fish and chip shop used to be a stopping point in my lorry!

 

[g d cooper]

hi Lee I will go to Downton and have a look around see were that side of the family came from as Itchen Village is not there anymore there will not be a lot to see so will have a hunt around for old pre war photos .
well of to bed in aus . Glen

 

[benny1982]

Hi

Also once the railways were introduced people became more mobile. They then travelled further to find work.

Ben

 

[Lincoln Lad]

My Wiltshire lot came from Sutton Veny, eventually they travelled down the Wylye valley into Salisbury and eventaully made their way to Portsmouth.
Nothing special about them though, mainly builders/glaziers.

 

[p.risboy]

hi Lee I will go to Downton and have a look around see were that side of the family came from as Itchen Village is not there anymore there will not be a lot to see so will have a hunt around for old pre war photos .
well of to bed in aus . Glen

Hi Glen,

Found this:- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Itchen_Ferry_village

And this:- http://www.diaperheritage.com/exhibition/itchen_ferry/index.php

Steve.

 

[leefer]

My Wiltshire lot came from Sutton Veny, eventually they travelled down the Wylye valley into Salisbury and eventaully made their way to Portsmouth.
Nothing special about them though, mainly builders/glaziers.

Theres something special about every family Lincoln!....especially if they originate from Wiltshire of course...Sutton Veny..always think it could be the name of a blue cheeze.

 

[nainmaddie]

Hi Leefer

There is a blue cheese but it comes from Dorset and if I remember rightly it was called Blue Vinney. This was back in the late 60's.

Maddie

 

[leefer]

http://www.picsearch.com/pictures/food !! drink/cheese/cheese do-g/dorset blue vinney cheese.html

Blimey...thaught you were joking Maddie...thaught it had rang a bell,say CHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEZE!!!!

 

[p.risboy]

http://www.picsearch.com/pictures/food !! drink/cheese/cheese do-g/dorset blue vinney cheese.html

Blimey...thaught you were joking Maddie...thaught it had rang a bell,say CHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEZE!!!!

Hi Leefer, more cheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeese.

http://www.hkhiking.com/honey/types.html

Steve.

 

[g d cooper]

hi all I Google about downton today in 1836 a 10th of the working pepole went to Canada for work the farming had gone that bad so no wonder my Goldings came to southampton.
Glen

 

[duckweed]

Having researched why my husbands ancestors left Lincolnshire starting in 1837 and resulting in every family member leaving the village by 1851 I found these answers.
1. Collapse of agriculture due to High prices during napoleonic war which carried on after the war. Wages were cut and the price of corn kept artificially high,

2 Rise in population from 1780s onward due to better farming techniques and better medical care. Despite the number of children who died young a much higher proportion of mothers survived childbirth and went on to have large families.

3 Change in farming methods meant small farms and small holdings were no longer sustainable.

4. The offer of much higher wages in the manufacturing towns. A family in Manchester could earn 4 times the money they got in a rural area.

5 The offer of cheap fairs to Australia New Zealand etc..

 

[g d cooper]

thanks It's hard to get why people up and leave when your in OZ trying to understand what is going.
Glen

 

[gibbo]

thanks It's hard to get why people up and leave when your in OZ trying to understand what is going.
Glen

HI Glen

Your right about that. Maybe we aussies should all get together and head for england for a couple of weeks. Invasion of the aussies.

gibbo

 

[g d cooper]

when do we leave glen

 

[gibbo]

when do we leave glen

:2fun: :2fun: :2fun: i dont even have a passport! oh forgot for a minute, i have a fear of flyingredf)


gibbo