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Will the real John Williams please stand up!


Looking for some assistance researching my great grandfather John Williams.

I know his name was John after ordering my grandparents wedding certificate, Christopher J Williams / Frances Mahon 1946 in West Derby Liverpool. I know Christopher had a sister called Mary who married a person by the surname of "Page". "Christopher J Williams" was born in 1915 in West Derby. I know this is him because he died aged 66 in 1982. His middle name was "James". Johns profession on their marriage certificate appears to be "Motor Factory ...." their is some more text but illegible to my eyes.

The birth record for Christopher on FREEBMD stated a mothers maiden name of "Tracey", I have done a search for Mary and found a match with the maiden name of "Tracey" also a year prior. "Tracey" is the only common maiden name that I can find in this region which matched both a christopher and mary around this time period so I am pretty confident its correct.

I then searched for a Williams / Tracey marriage and found one in 1909 in west derby. I ordered the certificate, it states John Williams was 21 years of age (1888 ), Mary Tracey was 18 (1891) . John's father was "James Williams" occupation "Plasterers Labourer". Alot of the certificate i am struggling deciphering the handwriting such as church/street names which may lead me to census documents that may help me further. I can make out that they both lived at seperate addresses on their certificate, both being in West Derby. If anyone would like to see a scan of it please ask.

I have found a few users trees on ancestry which appears to be connected to mine.

They confirm a Williams/Tracey marriage, this top link has got further than myself but I am not sure theirs is correct so I am taking it with a pinch of salt as he has John's father also listed as John were I know it is actually James based on the marriage certificate. He also has John's middle name as "Wilbraham" and born in Newton le willows. I have no evidence of how they know this as they have no records attatched to back it up? John is showing as married to a Harriet. I have messaged this user to determine the source of their information but has not got back to me as yet.

Any ideas on how I can proceed would be much appreciated as I cannot order a birth certificate as it could be one of many?
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