William Adam SYME

[DaveHam9]

Hello,

William Adam SYME b. Born 1 Jun 1889 ?

1891 U.K census
C.P: New Windsor
E.P: New Windsor
County: Berkshire
ED: Victoria or the Infantry Barracks including the Castle Guards
SYME William, Lee Corporal 1862 age 29 Soldier Foot Guard Scotland
SYME Annie, wife 1865 age 26 Scotland
SYME Mary, daur 1887 age 4 London
SYME Eathel, daur 1889 age 2 Ireland (looks like Rachel)
SYME William, son 1890 age 1 Chelsea, London
NOTE (William SYME b. 1862 was born in Larbert, Scotland. parents Adam & Jane)

1901 U.K census
C.P: St George Hanover Square
E.P: St Barnabas
County: London
ED: Chelsea Barracks
SYME Annie, wife m 1865 age 36 Glasgow, Scotland
SYME Wm Adam, son 1891 age 10 Chelsea, London
SYME Alexander Geo, son 1896 age 5 Chelsea, London


Births Jun 1895
Syme Alexander George St. Geo. H. Sq. 1a 434

There seems to be no registration of William's birth.

Next query re William, senior to follow.

Regards,

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello,

William SYME b. 5 OCT 1861 Larbert, Stirling, Scotland

Father: ADAM SYME Mother: JANE HONEYMAN

Marriages Sep 1886
Gray Annie St Geo H Sq 1a 855
SYME William St. Geo. H. Sq. 1a 855


I find it a real pain trying to find anything in TNA.

This does not fit with the info from the census:

Folios 544-547. William Smith alias William Syme, born Ayrshire, Scotland.
Attestation papers to serve in the Royal Marines at Royal Marines 1883 (when aged 19).
Discharged 1883 as Claimed by Kings Own Borderers Regiment.


SYME Eathel, daur 1889 age 2 Ireland (looks like Rachel)

I've searched the Royal Hospital Chelsea and nothing.

Possible
Deaths Mar 1906
SYME William 46 Lanchester 10a 220

Deaths Mar 1941
Syme William 78 Surrey Mid. E. 2a 471

Regards,

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello,

Ireland in 1889. Probably hard to find what regiment William was in from that bit of information.

What about his discharge papers?

I wonder if Fred is hiding in TNA?

Regards,

Dave

 

[pejay]

William Adam Syme found in 3rd qr 1890 St George Hanover square 1a 414

 

[gortonboy]

William Syme attested for the 2nd battalion Scots Guards in 1882.

5536 corporal
discharged London 1907
A shoemaker by trade
born Larbert ,Stirling c 1863

father Adam,,mother Jane,,,brother Alexander,,sister Rachael.
Married Annie Gray Christ Church,St Margarets 18th July 1886

served

home 1882-1885
Egypt 1885-1885 138 days
Cyprus 1885-1885 64 days
home 1885-1900
South Africa 1900-1902
home 1902-1907

awarded Egypt medal,,Khedive bronze star
Queens South Africa medal with 3 clasps
Kings South Africa medal
Good conduct medal

died Netherne hospital,Coulsden,Surrey february 24th 1941 cause Senile Decay

http://www.exploringsurreyspast.org...l_hospital_records/netherne_hospital_coulsdon

 

[gortonboy]

william is also in the 1881 census


The Barracks, Caterham

RG number: RG11 Piece: 806 Folio: 54 Page: 10

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello gortonboy,

Thank you very much for the details. A bit more than I expected actually.

I'll search for him in 1881 census.

Births Sep 1890
Syme William Henry St. Geo. H. Sq. 1a 414

EDIT: The image indeed has William Adam. I tried to post a correction including the URL to the image but it came up Error. I've never yet been able to post a correction and have always had to just add a Postem.

I will look at the image now and see if it says Henry or Adam.

Regards,

Dave

 

[gortonboy]

the service record is available on the findmypast website.

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello gortonboy,

Thanks for the info.

They are not a direct line in my tree but there by marriage to a 2nd cousin, a descendant of Lt. Stephen PERDRIAU, RN. So I was looking for a bit of info. I won't chase his grandparents Adam & Jane.

You might be able to help me with a few others in my tree who were in the army in the 1800s.

Regards,

Dave

 

[gortonboy]

no problem,,,,just post the details of the army chaps,,,i will see if they have a record

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks. I'll go through my database.

Regards,

Dave

 

[gortonboy]

Person:William A SYME b1890 occupation,,,manufacturer
Departure date:8 November 1935
Port of departure:Southampton
Destination port:New York
Destination country:USA
Ship DEUTSCHLAND

ADDRESS 64 Dancer rd,Richmond ,Surrey.
intended place of residence...Australia

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello gortonboy,

Thank you very much.

On his was back. He married in Sydney:

# 8669/1918 SYME WILLIAM A PERDRIAU HAZEL HORNSBY


UK Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960
Name: W A Syme
Birth Date: abt 1890
Age: 17
Port of Departure: Sydney, Australia
Arrival Date: 5 May 1907
Port of Arrival: Southampton, England
Ports of Voyage: Fremantle, Adelaide, Melbourne, Colombo, Sydney and Aden
Ship Name: Bülow = Bulow ***
Search Ship Database: Search the 'Bülow' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping Line: Norddeutscher Lloyd

THE LONDON GAZETTE, 22 MARCH, 1927
Flying Officer William Adam SYME is transferred from Class B to Class C. 16th Mar. 1927.

ADM 273/29/257 Details for this reference Page 257: William Adam Syme. RNAS Officers Service 1914-1918


Regards,

Dave