William Alfred FORSYTH

[DaveHam9]

Marriage 1417/1878 FORSYTH WILLIAM ALFRED - CLARKE JESSIE - SYDNEY

William's parents are William & Mary according to the image of the above marriage.

The Sydney Morning Herald - Mon 8 Nov 1920 p.8
DEATHS
FORSYTH.-November 6, Jessie Ethel, dearly loved mother of Ina Quinn, 43 Barcom-avenue, Darlinghurst.
FORSYTH.-November 6, at her residence, Womerah-avenue, Darlinghurst, Jessie Ethel, beloved eldest sister of Mrs. S. C. Fallick, Roslyn Gardens.

Looking for William's death.

Thanks,

Dave

 

[horse]

Would they have a son, Robert?

Geoff

 

[horse]

Possible for 1913

NSW E/R 1913 Ashfield - Liverpool Road
Forsyth Jessie, dd
Forsyth Robert, storeman
Forsyth William, contractor
Prestoun, William Street

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

Not that I know of Geoff.

No death in NSW index for William with parents as per his marriage.

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

No birth for a Robert in NSW index.

Can't see a death that fits for Robert as a son.

 

[horse]

There is a William Alfred Forsyth in Wagga Wagga in 1913, but he's on his own!

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Geoff.

No mention of William in Jessie's notices.

Birth 6354/1884 FORSYTH INA L S - WILLIAM A - JESSIE E - PETERSHAM * Seems to be the only birth.

Ashfield not far away. But don't know how Robert would fit in.

A death 1913 - 1920 ? No death for William that fits.

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

Nothing in Trove after 1896 for William Alfred Forsyth.

??
Death FORSYTH WILLIAM 8122/1910 JAMES MARGARET - SYDNEY

That one is not old enough.

William Alfred was born before 1857. No birth in England with middle name Alfred.

 

[DaveHam9]

The Forsyth family with son William an infant who arrived Assisted in 1853 were from Scotland.

No other Assisted to NSW that fits.

I think the Wagga one ended up in the army in 1915.

 

[horse]

I think the Wagga one ended up in the army in 1915.

One to discount then..

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

??
William A Forsyth
County Middlesex
Event Type Census
Event Date 1861
Event Place Ealing, Middlesex, England
Ecclesiastical Parish St Mary
Registration District Brentford
Residence Note Gunnersbury
Gender Male
Age 8
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Birth Year (Estimated) 1853
Birthplace Ealing, Middlesex
Page Number 4
Registration Number RG09
Piece/Folio 778 / 22
William Forsyth Head M 47 Scotland
Mary Forsyth Wife F 51 Southminster, Essex
William A Forsyth Son M 8 Ealing, Middlesex

Not that one - A = Alexander

 

[DaveHam9]

I read the mother's name on William's marriage as Stamworth.

??
Marriages Mar 1846
Forsyth William St Geo Han Sqr 1 45
Stammers Mary St Geo Han Sqr 1 45

FORSYTH, WILLIAM ALEXANDER - STAMMERS
GRO Reference: 1853 M Quarter in BRENTFORD Volume 03A Page 52

Not that census or marriage or birth.

 

[DaveHam9]

There is no other birth in GRO for a William or a William Alfred before 1858 with mmn Stamworth or similar.

Marriage say he was born Middlesex.

I may have to go soon. Place open for inspection again at 12.

Dave

 

[horse]

I read the mother's name on William's marriage as Stamworth.

??
Marriages Mar 1846
Forsyth William St Geo Han Sqr 1 45
Stammers Mary St Geo Han Sqr 1 45

FORSYTH, WILLIAM ALEXANDER - STAMMERS
GRO Reference: 1853 M Quarter in BRENTFORD Volume 03A Page 52

That's the only possible one that I can see at mo..

Geoff

 

[horse]

I may have to go soon. Place open for inspection again at 12.

OK, Dave.. No problem.

May be as well, I'm using EDGE/IE at mo... That with the lag, not helpful

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

No marriage in Scotland for A William to a Mary that fits.

So what to believe?

From NSW 1878 marriage
William Alfred Forsyth - Bachelor - Middlesex - Writing Clerk - full - Riley Street - William Forsyth & Mary (Stamworth) - Wine and Spirit Merchant


Looking for a William born say 1847 - 1858 with parents William & Mary in Middlesex in 1861 returns only the above family with A = Alexander.


I can't find a William Forsyth in Middlesex in 1861 who fits 'Wine and Spirit Merchant' as per marriage.

 

[horse]

No marriage in Scotland for A William to a Mary that fits.

So what to believe?

From NSW 1878 marriage
William Alfred Forsyth - Bachelor - Middlesex - Writing Clerk - full - Riley Street - William Forsyth & Mary (Stamworth) - Wine and Spirit Merchant

There is something wrong... I can't put my finger on it...

This is spooky.. Marriage has Riley Street..

New South Wales, Australia, Gaol Description and Entrance Books, 1818-1930
William Alfred Forsyth
Birth Place: Scotland
Arrival year: 1875
Arrival Country: Australia
Vessel Arrived In: La Hogue
Date of Admission/Photo: Feb 1896
Gaol: Parramatta
Gaol Location: North Parramata, NSW
Record Type: Description Book
[Has 54 Riley Street under the entry. Occ = jeweller. In the age column it says 1863]

There are errors, but the address... Probably coincidence

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Geoff.

Ok. If not full age then if it's him then nothing in the marriage is correct.

I don't have dob or age at death for Jessie.


About 30x William Forsyth born in Scotland 1860 - 1864 but none with middle name Alfred on SP.

No marriage for a William to a Mary Stamworth. * Hunter, Neilson, Salmond

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

La Hogue not listed as arriving in 1875 in NSW Archives.

1877 is the closest but no Forsyth(e) on any La Hogue as assisted.

 

[horse]

It may not be him, unless they separated.. There is a William Alfred Forsyth in 1901 census in Young, on his own. That may be the one who was in Wagga Wagga In 1913.

Geoff