William BAILEY & Mary Ann LONE/LOWE ?

[horse]

There is this, but he looks to be on his own.. May be too young?

BAILEY William 21 Queen of the Colonies 7 Oct 1865 IMM/113 2 Z1957

Geoff

 

[horse]

William's death has his father as George and that seems to fit so 1861 marriage then does not fit but there is no other.

Yeah, the Cheltenham marriage has William's father as John.

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

Obit has family per 'Charlie Palmer' Jan 1865.

http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/122066865

William was a policeman for a time.

Looks like we need a tree to help re Mary Ann.

Dave

 

[horse]

Looks like we need a tree to help re Mary Ann.

Yeah, have looked, but nothing showing on Anc. yet with what we've got..

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Geoff.

Several births and deaths on the vessel but no names.

Dave

 

[horse]

This is close to Wellington, Shropshire..

George Bailey
Baptism Date: 20 Oct 1861
Baptism Place: Dawley-Parva, Shropshire, England
Father: Willm. Bailey
Mother: Mary Ann
FHL Film Number: 1526898
Reference ID: item 9-14 p 121

Geoff

 

[horse]

Several births and deaths on the vessel but no names.

Yeah, a bit frustrating

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Geoff.

Re Frederick

... Born in Coombe Hill, Leigh.
Gloucestershire. on December 22. 1838
Mr. Lowe came to Queensland with
his parents, two brothers, a sister,
and a brother-in-law, in the sailing
ship Zoroaster in 1873. ...

 

[DaveHam9]

1851

Charles and Frederick not there. Coombe Hill fits.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGKG-B6Z

 

[DaveHam9]

??
LOWE, MARY ANN - BROADSTOCK
GRO Reference: 1841 J Quarter in GLOUCESTER UNION Volume 11 Page 319

Does not seem to be the right RD.

Should be Pearce as this one.

LOWE, THOMAS - PEARCE
GRO Reference: 1848 D Quarter in TEWKESBURY Volume 11 Page 441

LOW, MARY ANN - PEARCE
GRO Reference: 1839 J Quarter in TEWKESBURY Volume 11 Page 443

 

[horse]

No Charles or Frederick..

1841
RD: Tewkesbury
Ref: Piece: 354; Book: 25; Folio: 11; Page: 18
Willm Lowes 25, Mary Lowes 25, Joseph Lowes 6, James Lowes 4, Mary Lowes 2, William Lowes 3 Mo
All BiC

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

This has to be a daughter's death just after arrival.

Death registration:
Mary Annie Bailey
Death date:07/10/1866
Mother's name:Mary Ann Law
Father/parent's name:William Bailey
Registration details:1866/C/812

and this one

Mary Ann Bailey
Death date:23/10/1874
Mother's name:Mary Ann Lowe
Father/parent's name:William Bailey
Registration details:1874/C/625


But there is no birth in Qld. index to explain second one.

Can't find a burial yet for either of those.

 

[horse]

Not the easiest family to put together..

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Geoff.

Something is not right. If Frederick was born 1838 then he should be with that family. If he was born 1858 (I read it as 1838) then I'll search further.

Two daughters named Mary Ann but no birth in Qld. index. so mother must have died in Qld. but not in index?

If there had been just the 1866 death then I'd have said mother died on the vessel.

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

Can't find a birth for Frederick around 1858.

Can't find a burial yet for Charles or Frederick Lowe.

Can't find a birth for Charles that fits.

 

[horse]

If there had been just the 1866 death then I'd have said mother died on the vessel.

So was the Charlie Palmer carrying assisted passengers?

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/1267191

... on board about 252 Government immigrants, and a full cargo of general merchandise. ...

 

[horse]

Strange that it is not listed?

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

Something odd perhaps because the vessel was owned by the agent.

I have no age at death yet for Charles and Frederick Lowe.

Found another article in Trove re Frederick. I'll look again for his birth.

Born In Gloucestershire in 1858, ...

LOW, FREDERICK - PEARCE
GRO Reference: 1859 M Quarter in TEWKESBURY Volume 06A Page 407

Dave

 

[horse]

I have no age at death yet for Charles and Frederick Lowe.

Found another article in Trove re Frederick. I'll look again for his birth.

Born In Gloucestershire in 1858, ...

He's with the family in 1861 aged 2y Ref: RD: Tewkesbury; Piece: 1804; Folio: 107; Page: 4

Geoff

EDIT: And in 1871