William Baker GIRLING b. abt 1842 Devon

[DaveHam9]

Hello,

I'd like a census look up for 1851 please.

I'm searching for a William Baker GIRLING born about 1842 probably in Devon.

He married in Queensland in 1864 but I can't find his death anywhere in Australia yet so I don't have his parents:

1864/B0945 Girling William Baker Deagon Catherine Ann

I'm not sure when he arrived in Australia. This arrival in 1858 in Victoria is the only one I've found so far:

GIRLING MARY A 16 - APR 1858 EMPRESS EUGENIE 13 173
GIRLING WILLIAM 16 - APR 1858 EMPRESS EUGENIE 13 171

Thanks.

Dave

 

[crankypants]

Hi Dave

No luck yet finding William in 1851, however found his death in New Zealand.

http://bdmhistoricalrecords.identityservices.govt.nz/search/

DEATH
1898/2053 Girling William Baker 65Y

About ten articles relating to William Baker Girling in Papers Past.

http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast

cheers
crankypants

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello crankypants,

Thank you very much.

Please see if you have any luck with the DEAGON family also in Devon in 1851:

William b. ?
Spouse mary b. ?
dau Catherina Ann b. abt 1846 South Molton (Barnstaple)

Marriages Dec 1843
Deagon William Barnstaple 10 43
Smith Mary Barnstaple 10 43

Thanks.

Dave

 

[crankypants]

Hi Dave

DEAGON transcribed as DEAGAN.

1851 U.K census
Civil Parish: South Molton
County: Devon
Address: Barnstaple Street

DEAGAN William, head 1822 age 29 Grocer Tallow Chandler Stoke, Devon
DEAGAN Mary, wife 1820 age 31 East Down, Devon
DEAGAN Catherine, daur 1845 age 6 South Molton, Devon
DEAGAN Mary, daur 1847 age 4 South Molton, Devon
DEAGAN Elizh, daur 1849 age 2 South Molton, Devon
DEAGAN George, brother 1838 age 13 Apprentice Farmington, Devon
TOUT Edwin, servant 1831 age 20 Maryansleigh, Devon
YELLAND Charlotte, servant 1833 age 18 South Molton, Devon
CORBETT Ann, visitor 1807 age 44 Ilfracombe, Devon

cheers
crankypants

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello crankypants,

Thank you very much.

Interesting coincidence. I have a Henry Shiers RISHWORTH in my tree:

Parents Rev John Shiers RISHWORTH & Emily Sarah PALMER


School Records (APWs)
Name Rishworth Henry Shires
School West Christchurch
Register Number 316
Admission Date 1880
Parent / Guardian Rev J S Rishworth
Address Sydenham
Birthdate 01 Feb 1872
Last School Hutt
Last Day 22 Mar 1883
Destination Oamaru
Further enquiries to Canterbury Branch - NZSG
Sydney University BA 1908


Rev John Shiers RISHWORTH married William Baker GIRLING in Blenheim on 16 Aug 1877.

Mary Ann GIRLING was born on 22 May 1865 the only child of William and his first spouse Catherine Ann DEAGON.

Regards,

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello crankypants,

Going by age at death in NZ it points to the William in the shipping record to Victoria as being a different person. So we are looking for a William Baker GIRLING born about 1833 not 1842.

Regards,

Dave

 

[crankypants]

Hi Dave

Yes I was hoping adjusting his birth year would find him. Unfortunately no William GIRLING born in Devon or living in Devon around 1833.
12 William Girling's between 1831-1835 most born in Suffolk & Norfolk.
Let the process of elimination begin

cheers
crankypants

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello crankypants,

William & Mary DEAGON also came to Queensland and are buried in Bald Hills Cemetery.

They were still in England in 1861 so please see if you can find the family in the census.

Thanks.

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello crankypants,

I've found three people researching the DEAGON family and they don't agree where and when William and Mary were born They all have nothing for William GIRLING apart from his first marriage.

Regards,

Dave

 

[crankypants]

Hi Dave

1861 U.K census
Civil Parish: South Molton
County: Devon
Address: Queen Street (Grocer & Spirits Merchant)

DEAGON William, head 1822 age 39 Grocer Spirit Merchant & Farmer of 100 Acres employing 3 men Stoke Damerel, Devon
DEAGON Mary, wife 1818 age 43 East Down, Devon
DEAGON Catherine Ann, daur 1845 age 16 South Molton, Devon
DEAGON Mary Smith, daur 1847 age 14 South Molton, Devon
DEAGON Elizabeth, daur 1849 age 12 South Molton, Devon
DEAGON Mellicent, daur 1853 age 8 South Molton, Devon
DEAGON Lucy Gaw, daur 1855 age 6 South Molton, Devon
DEAGON Charles Smith, son 1857 age 4 South Molton, Devon
DEAGON Agness, daur 1859 age 2 South Molton, Devon

cheers
crankypants

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello crankypants,

Thank you very much.

I've looked in FreeREG 1833 +/- 5 years for a marriage of a male GIRLING to a BAKER in Norfolk, Suffold & Devon without luck. Also for a baptism of a William GIRLING without luck so far.

Regards,

Dave

 

[crankypants]

Hi Dave :biggrin: :biggrin:

Cyclopedia of New Zealand v5 Nelson

Mr. W. B. GIRLING was born at Brentwood, Essex, England, and was educated at a private school in London, where he was apprenticed to Howitt & Co. He came to New Zealand in 1872, landed at Nelson, and engaged with Wymond and Co., drapers and clothiers, but did not stay long with the firm before he decided to establish the business of W. B. Girling and Co., in which he met with a large measure of success. Mr. Girling died on the 20th March, 1898 ; aged sixty-five years.

1861 U.K census
Civil Parish: Islington
E.P: Holy Trinity
County: Middlesex
Address: 3 Middle Brunswick Terr

GIRLING William B, lodger 1833 age 28 Coal Agent Brentwood Essex

Back soon to search variants for 1851 census.

cheers
crankypants

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello crankypants,

Thank you very much.

Regards,

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello crankypants,


Thomas GIRLING married Ann BAKER:

19 Jun 1636 in St James, Bury St Edmunds

Possibly not that one

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello crankypants,

The Brisbane Courier (Qld.) Monday 18 July 1864, page 2
MARRIAGE.
GIRLING-DEAGON -On the 9th July,at North
Brisbane, by the Rev. J. Love, William Baker
Girling, of Brentwood, Essex, England, to
Catherine Ann, eldest daughter of Mr Wil-
liam Deagon, Prince of Wales Hotel, Edward
street, North Briisbane.

Regards,

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello crankypants,

William's parents are possibly William & Mary BAKER (2) & Sarah DENT (1)

Regards,

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello crankypants,

Another possible:

John GIRLING of Lawford and Sarah BARKER - 23rd February, 1816 - Stratford St. Mary

Regards,

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello crankypants,

Damn it! I keep finding stuff !!

Not the one born about 1833:

East Suffolk Gazette And Beccles And Bungay Weekly News 23 February 1869 Page 5, column 3:
"...Albert Middle-class College.---The Cambridge Local Examination list for December, 1868, was received at Framlingham on Monday. The Middle-class College School has done remarkably well ; out of 25 presented 22 passed ; and of these 6 were in the honour list, and 4 specially distinguished subjects. The names of the honour list boys are W.B. GIRLING, 2nd class senior ; W.T. GIDNEY, 3rd class senior ; A. COLBORNE, 2nd class junior ; H.H. BAKER, H. LAVIN, E. WILLINS, 3rd class junior. The names of the "distinguished" boys are W.B. GIRLING, distinguished for English..."

Regards,

Dave

 

[crankypants]

Hi Dave

Still no luck finding William in 1851.:'( :'( Could be hiding out with BALES:2fun: :2fun:

cheers
crankypants

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello crankypants,

:2fun:

I can't even find the birth or parents of the school senior in that 1869 article.

Not even having any luck with GURLING.

Regards,

Dave