William BROWN & Janet

[DaveHam9]

Marriage 592/1862 BARNES WILLIAM JOHN - BROWN JANET - SYDNEY * 16 Jul 1862 [Presbyterian]

The Sydney Morning Herald - Fri 18 Jul 1862 p.1
MARRIAGES
On the 16th instant, at her mother's residence, Bourke-street, Woolloomooloo, by the Rev. J. McGibbon, W. Barnes, Esq., son of John Barnes, Esq., of Murrumburrah, to Janet, second daughter of the late W. Brown, Esq.

Bap V18455795 45B/1845 BROWN JANET - WILLIAM - JANET

Can't find the marriage of William Brown to Janet in NSW index.

The first one in the index.

BROWN ROBERT 3298/1838 V18383298 45B WILLIAM - JANET

Janet still alive in 1862.

If William died in NSW then there are 62x deaths in the index to 1862.

 

[DaveHam9]

Any tree to help with this one thanks.

Dave

 

[horse]

From a tree..

If this is correct it suggests Janet was b. c1840. The record in post #1 being a bap.

Janet Barnes
Age: 66
Death Date: 16 Nov 1906
Burial Place: Sydney, NSW
Cemetery: Rookwood
Section: D
Row: 16
Inscription: wife of William John Barnes
Denomination: Old Church Of England

Geoff

EDIT: Correction

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Geoff.

The NSW index lists baptisms by the year of birth. See

https://forum.familyhistory.uk.com/threads/george-robert-barnes.33309/

There would have to be an error in the index if that daughter was born 1840 and baptised 1845.

Dave

 

[horse]

Thanks, Dave.. The bap. and the death both look right, yet 5y is a bit of a gap?

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Geoff.

Looks like it will be after mid June before libraries will allow access to fiche or films.

The marriage is not in the NSW index.

Better look for an arrival.

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

Oh.

Rookwood has changed the format of their on-line records three times in 11 years. The bottom one is the current one. I'm collecting some evidence and will complain to them that the new index contains less info than previous index entries - no age.

JANET BARNES Age 60 - 17/11/1906 Zone B D 782
Janet Barnes Date of Burial: 17 Nov 1906 Age: - Plot: D_Zone B/#/782

 

[horse]

Interesting, Ryerson not giving age either..

BARNES Janet Death notice 16 NOV 1906 Death late of North Sydney, Murrumburra and Goulburn Sydney Morning Herald 17 NOV 1906

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

The Sydney Morning Herald - Sat 17 Nov 1906 p.12
DEATHS
BARNES.-November 16th, at her late residence, Glenwood, Kirribilli Point, North Sydney, Janet, wife of W. J. Barnes, late of Murrumburra and Goulburn. By request, no flowers.


Deaths after 1862 to 1900 for 5x Janet Brown. Only one in Ryerson.

 

[horse]

Probably wouldn't be an issue if the cemetery headstone transcriptions didn't mention it, post #3..

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

??

BROWN JANET 698/1888 GEORGE DIED SYDNEY SYDNEY

BROWN.—April 13, at her residence,116, Womerah-avenue,
Darlinghurst, Mrs. Janet Brown, aged 74 years.

BROWN.—April 13, at the residence of her son-in-law, 116,
Womerah-avenue, Janet Brown, widow of the late William
Brown, of 125, Bourke-street, Woolloomooloo.

Marriage
On the 16th instant, at her mother's residence, Bourke-street, Woolloomooloo, ...

 

[DaveHam9]

Headstone inscriptions not always right. Cemetery record might be wrong with 60. Either way it will wait until I can get to the film. Or ....


Janet Brown
Christening: 13 Nov 1845
Event Place St. Andrew's Scots Church, Sydney, Cumberland County, New South Wales, Australia
Gender: Female
Father's Name: William Brown
Mother's Name: Janet Gray

 

[DaveHam9]

We have Janet's maiden name now.

William died between 1849 and 1862.

??
BROWN William Funeral notice 18JAN1856 Funeral late of Woolloomooloo Sydney Morning Herald 18JAN1856

 

[horse]

We have Janet's maiden name now.

William died between 1849 and 1862.

Yeah, and no image for Janet Jr. bap.

Geoff

 

[horse]

Anc. gives Janet's DoB as 26 Oct 1845..

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

?
Church record so a burial

BROWN WILLIAM 1265/1856 185601265 159 AGE 42 YEARS DIED CUMBERLAND * a volume not on the set of films at the library.

1856
FUNERAL. — The Friends of the late Mr.
WILLIAM BROWN are requested to attend his funeral,
THIS DAY (Friday). The procession will leave his late residence,
No. 26, Bourke-street, Woolloomooloo, at 2 o'clock. JOHN HILL,
Jun., and SON, undertakers.


Don't know if it is the right one.

 

[DaveHam9]

No marriage on FS for William Brown to Janet Gray. Or NSW index.

The names are both very common so maybe not this one.

BROWN
WILLIAM
JANET GRAY/FR1277 (FR1277)
24/06/1837
644/2
70 194
Gorbals

 

[DaveHam9]

GRAY
JANET
GEORGE GRAY/JANET LETHEM FR1338 (FR1338)
F
15/09/1813
693/
40 528
Liberton

 

[horse]

Yeah, as you say, not easy with those names

Geoff

 

[horse]

Found one tree that may be useful..

Points to this.

Assisted:
William Brown
Age:23
Arrival Date:3 Dec 1837
Vessel Name Portland
Origin Location: Glasgow, Lanarkshire
[Occ could be cabinet maker. With a Janet 23]

Geoff