William CRANFIELD & Mary Ann GITTOES

[DaveHam9]

I have one or is it two more convicts. :biggrin:

William CRANFIELD b. abt 1807 Belchamp, Essex - Arrived 27 Oct 1824 'Mangles 3' ?

Name: Mary Ann Gittoes
Birth: abt. 1820 England
Death: 30 Sep 1852 Narellan NSW
Burial: Oct 1852 St John's Camden NSW
ARVL: 29 Nov 1829 "Lady Davidson"

arrival: Lucy Davidson
Convict vessel
Master: Wm Wiseman
Origin: London 1829 Jul 20
Destination: Sydney 1829 Nov 29

However

Six free women and 17 children also arrived as passengers on the Lucy Davidson.

V18361331 19/1836 CRANFIELD WILLIAM - GITTOWS ELIZABETH CR= CofE Cobbity, Narellan

Error in the index with Elizabeth:

Page 28
Marriages solemnized in the Parish of Narrellan in the County of Cumberland in the Year 1835
No. 114
William Cranfield of the Parish of the Oaks
Mary Ann Gittows of the Parish of the Oaks
married in this Chapel by Banns with consent of His Excly. the Governor
Sixth day of July 1835 By me Thos. Hassall
Both by their x mark
Witnesses: Thomas Clark of Elderslie, Elizth. (her x mark) Clark of Elderslie


Burial V18521130 38B/1852 CRANFIELD MARY A AGE 32

Page 8
Burials in the Parish of St. John Camden in the County of Camden in the Year 1852
No 12 Mary Ann Cranfield Abode: Narrellan When Died: September 30th 1852 When Buried: October 2nd Age: 32 years Ship's Name: - Quality or Profession: Wife of William Cranfield Inn-Keeper By whom the Ceremony was performed: Edward Rogers

Looking for more info on convict William.

Trying to find out if Mary Ann was also a convict. Mary Ann's brother William married in NSW in 1849. I have no info that he was a convict.

Thanks,

Dave

 

[gibbo]

Bell’s Life in Sydney and Sporting Reviewer (NSW : 1845 - 1860)
Saturday 2 October 1852

On the 30th September, at her residence, the Burton Inn, Cowpasture, Mary Ann, the be- loved wife of Mr. William Cranfield, aged 37 years.

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks gibbo.


Title: William Cranfield, one of 190 convicts transported on the Mangles, July 1824.
Details: Sentence details: Convicted at Suffolk Assizes for a term of life on 27 March 1824.
Vessel: Mangles.
Date of Departure: July 1824.
Place of Arrival: New South Wales.
Source: Australian Joint Copying Project. Microfilm Roll 88, Class and Piece Number HO11/5, Page Number 166

 

[DaveHam9]

CRANFIELD William Mangles 1824 36/590 Ticket of Leave [4/4103; Reel 924] District: Camden; Tried: Suffolk ass

CRANFIELD William - Mangles 1824 1 Jan 1842 Recommended Conditional Pardon [4/4478; Reel 797 Page 182] Recommended by H C Antill PM; John Wild JP

CRANFIELD William - Mangles 1824 42/0225 11 Feb 1842 Ticket of Leave Passport [4/4244; Reel 969] Ticket of Leave 36/0590; On the recommendation of Picton Bench

 

[gibbo]

I dont think the Gittoes were convicts Dave.

Sounds like their father was here as well.

The Sydney Morning Herald (NSW : 1842 - 1954)
Friday 22 November 1844
NOTICE.
I HEREBY caution all persons against purchasing any Cattle or Stock of any description from William Gittoes, my son ; and I hereby give further public notice that I will not be answerable for any debts which the said William Gittoes may contract.

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/art...oes"&searchLimits=exactPhrase=william+Gittoes


Marriage index
V1849219 34C/1849 GITTOES WILLIAM HILDER MARY MY

Death index
5635/1877 GITTOES WILLIAM H GEORGE AGNES M GUNDAGAI

.

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks gibbo.


Parish of Picton
No 3
William Gittoes Bachelor otp
Mary Hilder Spinster otp
married in this parish by Banns with consent of Parents
Twentieth August 1849 By me Edward Rogers
Both signed
Witnesses: Jane Inglis of the Oakes, Moses Hilder of the Oakes


Parents are George GITTOES & Mary Ann BYERS.

I have this as the possible death:

3008/1884 GITTOE WILLIAM - GEORGE - MARY A - CANTERBURY

 

[DaveHam9]

Oh.

M. A. ALLEN means a remarriage for Mary Ann.

I can't see the marriage in NSW.

Did George die in England and Mary Ann remarry there and then come to Australia?

Is her maiden name actually BYERS ?

 

[horse]

Mother Byers also went under this name, seemingly...

Mary Ann Marshall
Age: 30
Date of Conviction: 15 Jan 1829
Place of Conviction: London
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1799
Vessel: Lucy Davidson
Port of Arrival: Sydney Cove
Date of Arrival: 29 Nov 1829

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

A large number of deaths in NSW after 1844 for a Mary ALLEN.

 

[horse]

App' to marry..

Mary A Marshall
Age: 33
Birth Year: Abt 1799
Spouse: Saml Allan
Request Status: Granted
Date of Permission/Refusal: 17 Jul 1832

 

[DaveHam9]

Not this one:

Name: Mary Anne Allen
Birth Year (Estimated): 1802
Age: 37
Native Residence Place: Ingleby Arncliffe, Yorkshire,
Father's Name: Nichola Harrison
Mother's Name: Mary Neesom
Spouse's Name: Edward Allen
Spouse's Residence Place: Devonport Plymouth, Devon,
Spouse's Father's Name: Abraham Allen
Spouse's Mother's Name: Betty Triggs
Ship Name: Eweretta
Event Date: 1839
Volume: 17
GS Film number: 416870
Digital Folder Number: 4117079
Image Number: 00454


This is not much help:

Name: Mary Anne Allen
Birth Year (Estimated):
Age:
Native Residence Place:
Father's Name:
Mother's Name:
Spouse's Name:
Spouse's Residence Place:
Spouse's Father's Name:
Spouse's Mother's Name:
Ship Name: Eweretta
Event Date:
Volume: 17
GS Film number: 416870
Digital Folder Number: 4117079
Image Number: 00484

 

[DaveHam9]

App' to marry..

Mary A Marshall
Age: 33
Birth Year: Abt 1799
Spouse: Saml Allan
Request Status: Granted
Date of Permission/Refusal: 17 Jul 1832

Thanks Geoff.

Now it's getting complicated. :biggrin:

ALLAN/ALLEN is rather common so easy to have 2x Mary A.


W know the name at the foot of the notice was 'M. A. ALLEN' and I doubt that was a solicitor.

I have not proved that Wiliam GITTOE's parents are George & Mary Ann BYERS.

 

[horse]

Thanks Geoff.

Now it's getting complicated. :biggrin:

ALLAN/ALLEN is rather common so easy to have 2x Mary A.

Nothing new then... :2fun: >

 

[horse]

Mary A Allen
Death Date: 1854
Death Place: New South Wales
Registration Year: 1854
Registration Place: Camden, Oaks, Picton, Stonequarry, New South Wales
Volume Number: V18541262 41A

 

[DaveHam9]

No, nothing new with any branch with a convict.

Burial V18541262 41A/1854 ALLEN MARY A AGE 57

The same tree has death for George GITTOES at Camden, NSW in 1868. I can't find it 1867-1869.

 

[DaveHam9]

Death 1927/1856 ALLEN SAMUEL - JOSEPH - BETTY - CAMDEN

 

[horse]

Did George go to Australia?

 

[DaveHam9]

Did George go to Australia?

According to a tree George and spouse Mary Ann and son William and daughter Mary Ann all ended up in Camden, NSW.

As usual something does not add up.

GITTOES
Mary Ann b. 1820 England
William b. 1822 England
Parents George & Mary Ann ??

Mary Ann marries Samuel ALLEN 1832 but George does not die until 1868 ???

We know from the notice that M. A. ALLEN is the mother of a William GITTOES. I'd say that implies that William's father is dead by 1844 and possibly died in England.

 

[horse]

Ok.. thanks, Dave

 

[horse]

I found a fairly well-informed tree that says that Mary Ann Gittoes and William Gittoes were on the Lucy Davidson with convict mother, Mary Ann Marshall, no mention of father... There are no details about George (father)..