William de FRAINE

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Geoff.

Oh. Didn't know about that one.

Dave

 

[p.risboy]

Baptism. 7 Oct 1827. William child of Thomas & Rebecca DE FRAINE of Aylesbury, Cordwainer.
Baptism 25 Mar 1827 George child of Thomas & Rebecca DE FRAINE of Aylesbury, Cordwainer.

Burial - 11 Feb 1840. Thomas DE FRAINE aged 62 of Aylesbury.

Marriage - 23 May 1830 by Banns
Stephen Thomas JENKINS, Widower otp
Rebecca X DE FRAINE, Widow otp
Witnesses Hannah X Garner Horwood John Bunce.

Baptism 17 Oct 1832. Ann daughter of Stephen & Rebecca JENKINS of Aylesbury, Whitesmith


Marriage 26 Dec 1797 by Banns
Thomas DE FRAINE otp
Fanny HITCHCOCK otp
Witnesses Richd De Fraine Robt Wheeler

Marriage 23 Mar 1834 by Banns
Thomas DE FRAINE, Widower otp
Hannah X DEELEY, Widow otp
Witnesses George De Fraine Mary De Fraine

No other marriages in St.Mary's for a Thomas deFraine in the right time frame.
There are 12 variations of deFraine, plus 1 other. Dearringe(More than likely Dearing).

I'm sure I gave you these, in the other monster deFraine thread.:2fun:

One 1841 census sighting for a William DeFraine c1831 n.b.i.c. Occ. Silk Flowers, in Tring, Hertfordshire. In the household of a Richard Foster c.1806. n.b.i.c. Occ. Silk Flowers.


Steve.

 

[p.risboy]

Marriage.

William Defraine
1845
Jan-Feb-Mar
Reg. district: Berkhamstead
Hertfordshire
Volume: 6
Page: 569

William Bunn
William De' Fraine
William Defraine
Mary Ann Drever
Ann Goodman
Betsy Goodman
Robert Algernon Smith
Emma Thompson
Thomas Wallis

I'm guessing you have this.:2fun:


Steve.

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Steve.

Death in NSW with father = Thomas

DE FRAINE WILLIAM 9427/1879 THOMAS - DIED WELLINGTON WELLINGROVE

Ok, so there are only 2x William b. 1820 - 1830 - son of William & Ann and son of Thomas & Rebecca.

Age is all over the place for William son of William.

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

Marriage.

William Defraine
1845
Jan-Feb-Mar
Reg. district: Berkhamstead
Hertfordshire
Volume: 6
Page: 569

William Bunn
William De' Fraine
William Defraine
Mary Ann Drever
Ann Goodman
Betsy Goodman
Robert Algernon Smith
Emma Thompson
Thomas Wallis

I'm guessing you have this.:2fun:


Steve.

Yes, thanks Steve. Can't find the date though.

With age not fitting very well I wanted to check there was not a second William son of William so that's sorted.

Dave

 

[p.risboy]

With William & George deFraine, being baptised in the same year, and less than 8 months apart, I would guess William was born a bit earlier.

No George deFraine burials or marriages @ St Mary's that fit.

So does that help.?

Steve.

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Steve.

William, son of William

1841 census 17
1851 census 27
1856 shipping record 27
1863 age at death ?

I think we can let it rest until one day next week when I'll try to view the 2nd reel of the shipping record at the State Library. It should list age, occupation, and parents and if they are dead or where living if not.

William, son of Thomas is not the one who connects to my tree in Queensland.

Dave

 

[p.risboy]

Just to put Stephen Jenkins & Rebecca DeFraine to bed.......found this.

1851 Census.

Trowbridge.

Stephen Jenkins. 85. b. Gloucester. Occ. Smith & Farrier.
Ann De Fraine Jenkins 19. b. Aylesbury.
Rebecca De Fraine Jenkins 17. b.Trowbridge.
Solomon De Fraine Jenkins 15. Trowbridge.

England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
Solomon Jenkins
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 9 Jul 1837
Place: Wesleyan Methodist,Trowbridge,Wiltshire,England
Father: Stephen Jenkins
Mother: Rebecca Curren

1841 census.

Rebecca Jenkins
Age 40
abt. 1801
Born Wiltshire.
Civil parish Steeple Ashton
Hundred Whorwelsdown
Wiltshire.
Reg. district. Melksham
Sub-reg. dist. Melksham

In the workhouse with children.

I can't see Stephen Jenkins much further than this, nor anyhthing else for this mob, but I haven't really looked that hard.
But if things turn out, Rebecca Curren would be her maiden name at the marriage to Thomas DeFraine.2fun:

Marriage.
Name. Thomas Defraine.. (Bach).
Spouse. Rebecca Curren..(Spin).
Event Date 27 May 1822
Event Place St. Botolph Bishopsgate, London, England

Name: Thomas Defraine.
Baptism Date: 25 Dec 1823. Born 28th May.
Baptism Place: St Giles Cripplegate,London,London,England
Father: Thomas Defraine. Occ. Shoemaker. Abode, Aylesbury.
Mother: Rebecca

This may, or may not help, if she turns out to be his mother.

Steve.

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Steve.

I just hope the film is one I can read. Some are too faint and some look like a fountain pen was used on blotting paper. :biggrin:

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

Assisted
DEFRAIN William 27 'Lady Macdonald' 1856 Moreton Bay Reels 2138, 2474

Arrived 1856 - Reel 2474
Wm. 27 - Agl labourer - Aylesbury - Wm. & Betsey - C.E. - R&W

Usually states if parents are dead or if living then where, but not by the master of this vessel.

Problem. It's not William & Ann (Chester).

The arrival in Queensland fits. The age is 5 years out. Father as William fits. Mother as Betsey does not fit. Occupation does not fit - a letter carrier in 1851. Death reg does not have mother as Ann or Betsey. Death is several months after spouse Emma nee Thompson remarried in Queensland. No age at death.

Death 29 May 1863/C0680 De Fraine William - William De Fraine - Marian Hughes ?

 

[DaveHam9]

1861
RG9 Piece 841 Folio 59 Page 1
Civil Parish: Great Berkhamstead
Town: Gt Berkhamstead
County: Hertfordshire
Registration District: Berkhampstead
Sub-RD: Berkhampstead
ED: 4f
No of Schedule: 4
Address: High St
William De Fraine Head Mar 60 Hair Dresser Aylesbury Buckinghamshire
Ann De Fraine Wife Mar 64 Thame Oxfordshire
Betsy De Fraine Dau Unm 29 Gt Berkhamstead Hertfordshire


Betsy is not with family in 1851 - aged 10 in 1841.