William E SMITH & Hanorah/Norah

[DaveHam9]

Hello,

NSW Birth 33179/1902 SMITH GLADYS G - WILLIAM E - HANORAH M - MANILLA

NSW Death 106962/1980 MELLEFONT GLADYS GERTRUDE - WILLIAM EDWARD - NORAH MARY

Looking for the marriage of William Edward to Hanorah/Norah Mary.

These in NSW don't seem to fit:

3584/1895 SMITH WILLIAM T - MOYLAN NORAH - NEWTOWN
1527/1898 SMITH WILLIAM P - MANNION NORAH - NEWTOWN

Thanks.

Dave

 

[horse]

Hi Dave

Any use?

6584/1885 SMITH WILLIAM EDWARD, JONES HANNORA M, ARMIDALE

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Geoff.

I missed that one. Manilla is SW of Armidale so that fits.


Couldn't find all the baptisms I wanted today. One family had three children baptised the same day but something is wrong with the details in the index. Don't know yet if the volume is wrong or the sequence number or both.

 

[DaveHam9]

A possible death:

25971/1966 SMITH WILLIAM EDWARD - WILLIAM HENERY - MARY - TAMWORTH


William Edward Smith 1958 New South Wales New England
William Edward Smith 1963 New South Wales New England


No middle name:

Norah Smith 1958 New South Wales New England

Not in New England in 1963. Can't see an obvious death.

6265/1961 SMITH NORAH UNKNOWN UNKNOWN NEWCASTLE

 

[horse]

Nope, plenty of possibles, nothing conclusive

 

[DaveHam9]

Any occupation for Norah in 1958 other than 'home duties' ?


William's death is not in Ryerson so no age at death and past 1954 so not in TROVE.

Ditto that 1961 death in Newcastle.

 

[horse]

Just found this...

Australia Death Index, 1787-1985
Name: William E Smith
Death Date: 1931
Death Place: New South Wales
Father's Name: John
Registration Year: 1931
Registration Place: Uralla, New South Wales
Registration number: 3139
***
News about the death of William Smith

ELDERLY MAN'S DEATH

DOCTORS REFUSE CERTIFICATE.

Mysterious circumstances surround the death of William Edward Smith, 70, at Uralla. He was found lying dead near his home, and a post-mortem was held, but the doctors refused to give a certificate. Contents of the stomach have been sent to Sydney for analysis.

ELDERLY MAN'S DEATH. (1931, February 11). Singleton Argus (NSW : 1880 - 1954) , p. 1. Retrieved August 12, 2012, from http://nla.gov .au/nla.news-article81185619

Geoff

Edit: The link is fragmented, will look to addressing it..

This should do it!

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/81185619

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Geoff.

That's a more likely date.

Just SW of Armidale and ENE of Manilla.

 

[horse]

Yeah and interesting story, not found the outcome yet..

 

[DaveHam9]

Well Geoff. Looks like you have the right one. Now for 1930 and 1933 E/R to check.

Death 30513/1942 SMITH NORAH MARY - WILLIAM - ELLEN - URALLA

Not in Ryerson.

Possible marriage:

V1853223 85/1853 JONES WILLIAM - GUINESS ELLEN IG= Wesleyan Bathurst, Hill End

 

[horse]

Yeah, this is what I found too...

Australia Death Index, 1787-1985
Name: Norah Mary Smith
Death Date: 1942
Death Place: New South Wales
Father's Name: William
Mother's Name: Ellen
Registration Year: 1942
Registration Place: Uralla, New South Wales
Registration number: 30513

Geoff

 

[horse]

Gonna get some sleep.. speak soon..

 

[DaveHam9]

Ok, thanks Geoff.

 

[DaveHam9]

Nora/Hanora is not on the page in 1930.

1930 NSW Electoral Roll - New England - Uralla
SMITH William Edward, Hillcrest, Uralla, labourer

William died 5 Feb 1931.

1931 & 1937 NSW Electoral Roll - New England - Uralla
SMITH Honora Mary, Hillcrest, Uralla, home duties

Death 30513/1942 SMITH NORAH MARY - WILLIAM - ELLEN - URALLA * 4 Oct 1942

http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/174993218

 

[DaveHam9]

http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/16758765
The Sydney Morning Herald - Tuesday 3 March 1931 p.7
IN THE SUPREME COURT OF NEW SOUTH WALES - Probate Jurisdiction.-In the Will of WILLIAM EDWARD SMITH late of Uralla, ...
Probate of the Will of the abovenamed deceased may be granted to NORAH MARY SMITH of Uralla aforesaid, Widow of deceased the sole Executrix named therein ...