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William & Eliza CLARKE

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William James CLARKE b. 1814 Ellerton, Yorkshire d. 1875 Cambridge - surgeon

married 1840 Huddersfield

Eliza KILNER b. 10 Jun 1815 Huddersfield d. 1861 Huddersfield

I have 1851, 1861 & 1871.

I'd like a look up for them in 1841 please.

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Hi Dave,

Looks like William without Eliza!

CP Huddersfield
New North Rd

William Clarke age 25 occ surgeon born in county

Class H0107
Piece 1275
Book 9
Folio 46
Page 37
 

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Hello Julie,

Thank you very much.

They are not together in 1851 either but are in later years.

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Dave,

I'm probably doing this all wrong so apologies in advance - it's just that I have just started to try and find details of all of their children. One daughter of their daughters is my great grandmother, but I am trying to find out if there are any others - particularly if there is another daughter who became a Mrs Reed.

It may be abusing the etiquette of the site, but I suppose there is no way of knowing where the original request for information came from?

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Hello Nigel,

welcome to FHUK,

There are several members here researching KILNER and related families. This is one branch of my tree so this is my original request. Don't worry, you've done nothing wrong by replying to this topic.

I don't have much on the children but we will try and help you.

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1851
Civil Parish: Huddersfield
County: Yorkshire
Address: Kirkgate ?
CLARKE William J 1813 age 38 Mem of Royal College of Surgeons, Licenciate of Apothecaries Hall Ellerton, Yorkshire
CLARKE Elizabeth, 1843 age 8 Scholar Huddersfield, Yorkshire
CLARKE Thomas K, 1844 age 7 Scholar Huddersfield, Yorkshire
CLARKE Frances, 1846 age 5 Scholar Huddersfield, Yorkshire
1851
Civil Parish: Skipton
County: Yorkshire
CLARK Eliza, head 1809 age 42 Farmer of 320A Employing 9 out & 3 indoor lab Ellerton, Yorkshire
CLARK Frances, head 1810 age 41 Ellerton, Yorkshire
CLARK Eliza, sister-in-law 1816 age 35 Huddersfield, Yorkshire
CLARK Grace, niece 1849 age 2 Huddersfield, Yorkshire
Eliza CLARK with daughter Grace visiting her sister-in-laws.
(Note Eliza & Frances are both listed as head with brackets)

1861
Civil Parish: Huddersfield
County: Yorkshire
Address: John William Street
CLARKE William James, 1815 age 46 Member of the Royal College of Surgeons London, Licenciate of Apothecaries Company & General Practitioner Ellerton, Yorkshire
CLARKE Eliza, 1816 age 45 Huddersfield, Yorkshire
CLARKE Thomas Kilner, 1844 age 17 Scholar & Medical & Surgical Pupil Huddersfield, Yorkshire
CLARKE Grace, 1849 age 12 Scholar Huddersfield, Yorkshire
CLARKE Catherine, 1853 age 8 Scholar Huddersfield, Yorkshire
CLARKE William James, 1858 age 3 Scholar Huddersfield, Yorkshire
1871
Civil Parish: Huddersfield
County: Yorkshire
Address: John Wm Street
CLARKE William J, widower 1816 age 55 M.R.C.S & L.S.A General Ellerton, Yorkshire
CLARKE Grace, daur 1849 age 22 No Occupation Huddersfield, Yorkshire
CLARKE Catherine, daur 1854 age 17 No Occupation Huddersfield, Yorkshire
 

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Nigel, what can you add to this and we'll start the search to fill in the gaps.

The daughters are:

Elizabeth b. abt 1843 Huddersfield m. ? d. ?

Frances b. abt 1846 Huddersfield m. ? d. ?

Grace b. 1848 Huddersfield m. ? d. ?

Births Sep 1848
CLARKE Grace Huddersfield 22 354

Catherine b. 1853 Huddersfield m. ? d. ?

Births Sep 1853
Clarke Catherine Huddersfield 9a 315
 
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Dave,

Many thanks - both for the welcome and the information. Elizabeth is my great grandmother. She married Thomas Haigh on 25th March 1860 in Huddersfield and died in 2nd Sept 1893. (I don't have an accurate dob for her, just ?1842.) I have the Haigh family tree in both directions for several generations (but not online, I am afraid). My interest is in her elder son, my great uncle, Arthur Samuel, who went out to the US around 1890, never married and died in the Bahamas in 1909. I have come across a reference in a newspaper (Feb 1898) to a "Mrs Reed, waiting with her son, for her nephew to return from a trip" and this is what stirred my interest in Elizabeth's sisters, as Thomas was an only child.

For completeness, Thomas and Elizabeth had 2 children, Arthur (b 26th Feb 1861, d 9th Feb 1909), and Charles Thomas Ernest (b 20th Dec 1862, m 16th Sept 1897, d 29th Dec 1927).

I'll start digging into the other daughters: when I find something, I will let you know.

In the FWIW category, if anyone is researching family connections in Florida, then I can strongly recommend the "University of Florida Digital Collections" website (http://ufdc.ufl.edu/). They have digitised many of the old newspapers which are searchable - this was the source of the entry found above. Although not strictly genealogy, it has proven valuable to filling in information about my great uncle, and gives a fascinating insight into a different social world.

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Hello Nigel,

Thanks for the info.

I don't know what happened to Frances, Grace or Catherine.

I can't see a birth registration for Elizabeth or Frances. I did find this:

Marriages Jun 1860
CLARKE Elizabeth Huddersfield 9a 341
Haigh Thomas Huddersfield 9a 341
PARKIN Hannah Huddersfield 9a 341
Wheelwright John Huddersfield 9a 341

I thought I had found 'Betsy' as a widow in 1881 with three daughters but wasn't sure.

1881
RG11 Piece / Folio 4375 / 18 Page 29
Census Place Almondbury, York, England
Dwelling Somerset Road (Elm Cottage)
Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
Bessy HAIGH Head W Female 37 Huddersfield, York, England
Annie Louisa HAIGH Daur U Female 15 Huddersfield, York, England School Pupil Teacher
Agnes HAIGH Daur U Female 13 Huddersfield, York, England
Sarah Ann HAIGH Daur U Female 11 Huddersfield, York, England

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This is the only marriage I've found so far that was a possibility:

Marriages Dec 1863
Clarke Frances Burnley 8e 235
Collinge Mary Ann Burnley 8e 235
Read Richard Burnley 8e 235
Rooney James Burnley 8e 235

I think this is a different Frances.

groom's name: James Rooney
groom's birth date:
groom's birthplace:
groom's age:
bride's name: Frances Clarke
bride's birth date:
bride's birthplace:
bride's age:
marriage date: 25 Dec 1863
marriage place: Saint James, Burnley, Lancashire, England
groom's father's name:
groom's mother's name:
bride's father's name:
bride's mother's name:
groom's race:
groom's marital status:
groom's previous wife's name:
bride's race:
bride's marital status:
bride's previous husband's name:
indexing project (batch) number: M16277-1
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 1526113
reference number:

When did Frances die and where is she in 1861? Frances is 5 in 1851 so this is not her death:

Deaths Sep 1848
Clarke Frances Barnsley 22 14

And what about Grace and Catherine after 1871?


Deaths Jun 1875
CLARKE Grace 6[14] Huddersfield 9a 276

That means age is either 61 or 64. The image looks like 64 to me.
 
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Hello cp,

If that 'Betsy' is not Elizabeth in 1881 where is she? Elizabeth died 2nd Sept 1893.

There are several Arthur HAIGHs born 1860-1862 so I can't tell which reg it is. There is an Arthur Samuel in Dewsbury but that may not be their eldest son.

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Dave
 
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Hi Dave

Finally found them under HUGH.

Civil parish: Huddersfield
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street Address: Bradley Lane
Registration district: Huddersfield
Sub-registration district: Huddersfield
HUGH, Elizabeth Head Widow F 38 1843 Widow Master Of Cotton Spinner Huddersfield Yorkshire
HUGH, Arthur S Son Single M 20 1861 Cotton Spinner Mirfield Yorkshire
HUGH, Charles K Son Single M 18 1863 Cotton Spinner Mirfield Yorkshire
ATKINSON, Francis S Visitor Single F 37 1844 Ferrybridge Yorkshire
GARDENER, Emma Cook Single F 43 1838 Cook (Dom) Wellsbourne Warwickshire
JOWETT, Eliza Servant Single F 20 1861 Gen Serv (Dom) Wragby Yorkshire
PECK, Rachel E Servant Single F 26 1855 Professional Sick Nurse (Sub Med) York Yorkshire

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1861 census.

Arthur Saml Haigh
Age: 1 MO
abt 1861

Father-Thomas Haigh
Mother-Elezebeth Haigh

Born-Mirfield, Yorkshire, England
Civil parish: Mirfield
Eccl parish - Christchurch
Yorkshire.
Address- Cinderhill House. (diffo to read).

Reg dist-Dewsbury
Sub-reg.-Mirfield
ED-2

Thomas Haigh 25. Occ. Cotton Spinner master.
Elezebeth Haigh 18. b.Huddersfield.
Arthur Saml Haigh 1 mnth.


Steve.:)
 

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1871 census.

Arthur S Haigh
Age: 10
abt 1861

Father - Thomas Haigh
Mother - Elizabeth Haigh

Born - Mirfield, Yorkshire, England
C/P - Huddersfield
Eccl parish -Woodhouse Christchurch
Town - Bradley
Yorkshire.
Address - Bradley Lodge.

R/D -Huddersfield
Sub-Huddersfield
ED-34

Thomas Haigh 35. Master cotton spinner.
Elizabeth Haigh 28. b.Huddersfield.
Arthur S Haigh 10
Charles S E Haigh 8 (Should read T ).



Steve.:)


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Thanks Steve.

That means I should now be able to find the right reg. ;)

Births Jun 1861
HAIGH Arthur Samuel Dewsbury 9b 523

Mirfield is a sub-district.

Arthur Samuel b. 26 Feb 1861 and baptised 11 Apr 1861 parish of Mirfield - abode Cinder Hills

Charles Thomas Ernest b. 20 Dec 1862 and baptised 3 Aug 1863 St Thomas Bradley in Woodhouse

Regards,

Dave
 
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Thanks

I did find a bit more information on the Clarke sisters:
Frances: b 27 Oct 1845; bapt 7 Oct 1846;
Grace: b July 1848
Catherine: b July 1853

I too had a quick look through marriages, but did not see anything that looked likely. I'll keep looking as and when time permits. I think that Catherine is the most likely sister to concentrate on, just because of respective ages, so I'll try and work from there.

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Hello Nigel,

I've had no luck finding a marriage for either Grace or Catherine. I can't see either unmarried in 1881 and I can't find a death before 1881 so it almost points to a marriage for both of them. One may have lived much longer than the other. Common names too so looking with given name and date and place of birth is difficult.

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Hello,

I was trying to do some research on William J Clarke and came upon this forum.

I don't know whether the following information is of interest to anyone.

I live in Edgerton, Huddersfield, West Yorkshire and have just started to do some research on my house.

I found out today that the land on which my house was built was originally part of a very large estate. At some point in the mid 1800's the estate was physically divided by the building of the Halifax road. The owner of the estate, a Thomas Varley, sold the land on the other other side of the road from his house to William J Clarke, a surgeon, who built Grannum Lodge (my house). I assume this must be the same William J Clarke on this forum.

I would be very happy to post some pictures of the house to anyone who is interested.
 

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Hello pippa,

welcome to FHUK


I'm not sure if it is the same William J CLARKE or not. The surgeon was living at John William street according to the 1861 and 1871 census. He died on 25 July 1875 at Cambridge.


Regards,

Dave
 
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