William & Ellenor PATE

[DaveHam9]

Hello,

Death 25 Oct 1883/C01523 Pate Ellenor Ann - Samuel Adlam - Ellen Farmer

Death 5 Dec 1888/C02285 Pate William - Robert Pate - Rebecca Hartsom

The Northern Miner (Charters Towers, Qld. : 1874 - 1954) - Thursday 6 December 1888 p.3
FUNERAL NOTICE.
THE Friends of the Late WILLIAM PATE, late Engine Driver at the South Black Jack, are respectfully invited to attend his Funeral, which will leave at 11 o'clock, This Day, December 6.
BEN. TOLL, Undertaker.

So far I can't find Ellenor's death or funeral notice in TROVE.

Charters Towers Pioneer Cemetery covers an area of about 5 hectares on the western side of town. It was in use from 1872 to 1895, at which time the burial plots were exhausted and a new cemetery opened on the northern outskirts of town. The Pioneer Cemetery is believed to contain some 5,000 graves, although a mere 343 inscriptions are to be found today.

Not on the list - HERE

Regards,

Dave

 

[gibbo]

Dave they would be buried in the Pioneer Cemetery about 8 houses from my place. There are not many headstones left considering the size of the cemetery and what grave makers there were have been thrown all over the place. But if you can wait until Monday i can get the burial record for William for you and i will see if Ellenor is listed as well.

Im not logging out but i will BBIAM That means be back in a minute :biggrin:

 

[gibbo]

I have been to the cemetery and back and you havent moved :2fun::2fun: You gone to sleep?

 

[DaveHam9]

Eating lunch. :biggrin:

I can wait until Monday next year. :2fun:

 

[DaveHam9]

I presume William was an engine driver at a mine. That could mean a hoist in a shaft or an engine to power say a stamper crusher.

What sort of mine? Gold I presume.

Photo - HERE

 

[gibbo]

Eating lunch. :biggrin:

I can wait until Monday next year. :2fun:

What did you have for lunch?

It will be this Monday when i get back from Townsville :biggrin:

 

[gibbo]

I presume William was an engine driver at a mine. That could mean a hoist in a shaft or an engine to power say a stamper crusher.

What sort of mine? Gold I presume.

Photo - HERE

Yes gold Dave.

Check your emails :biggrin:

 

[gibbo]

Found this Dave but they have his name as John



Pate, John 5 Dec 1888 Charters Towers
No. 1 S. Black Jack Block
Killed. Drawn into cog-wheels of engine and killed.


http://fhr.slq.qld.gov.au/minacc/pa.htm

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks.

The cemetery is like lots of Pioneer Cemeteries - showing signs of age.

The local council here didn't want the control of Gore Hill Cemetery transferred to it but it got it nevertheless.

Has to be him with an error in the name.

 

[gibbo]

What a awful way to die ..... Drawn into cog-wheels

Dave you have this death for Ellenor

Death 25 Oct 1883/C01523 Pate Ellenor Ann - Samuel Adlam - Ellen Farmer

But yet the newspaper article on William's death in 1888 states he has a wife and kids. Did he remarry after Ellenor die?

The Northern Miner (Charters Towers, Qld. : 1874 - 1954)(about)
Thursday 6 December 1888

The deceased was a married man, 31 years of age, having a wife anil two young children residing at Millchester, -and he had been work ing at the South Black Jack for about a fort night. The poor fellow's'wife is near her confinement, and the shock must have beeu a terrible one to her

 

[DaveHam9]

Ummm.

Marriage 124/1879 PATE WILLIAM ROBERT - ADLEM ELLENOR ANN - SYDNEY

St Philip's Sydney No 109
William Robert Pate Bachelor N. S. Wales Boiler Maker full age Robert Pate Rebecca Hartshorne Engineer
Ellenor Ann Adlem Spinster N. S. Wales - full age Samuel G Adlem Emma Farmer Cook
married in Church of St Philip
February 11th 1879 By me Thomas O'Reilly
Both signed
Witnesses: James Brakes, Eliza Fox

 

[DaveHam9]

Qld. Births

1883/C3619 Pate William Edward - William Robert - Ellenor Ann Adlam

1889/C5623 Pate Florence - William Robert - Eliza Creighton

NSW Births

11917/1885 PATE GLADYS A - WILLIAM R - ELIZA J - ST LEONARDS
3741/1886 PATE WILLIAM R - WILLIAM R - ELIZABETH - SYDNEY


Marriage 1314/1884 PATE WILLIAM R - CREIGHTON ELIZABETH J - SYDNEY

 

[DaveHam9]

I can see no remarriage or death in Qld. for Eliza(beth).

960/1889 MORRIS WILLIAM - PATE ELIZA - SYDNEY

Possible
Death 17218/1913 MORRIS ELIZA J - WILLIAM - SARAH - GLEBE

 

[gibbo]

At least we now know why he had a wife when he died He had remarried :biggrin:
The 1889 birth would be the baby she was pregnant with when he died.

A real harsh life here back then in the 1880's.

 

[DaveHam9]

Yes. One more terrible death in my tree.

 

[gibbo]

Birth
11 October 1883 Pate William Edward - William Robert - Ellenor Ann Adlam

Death
16 October 1883 William Edward Pate
25 October 1883 Ellenor


So the little fella only lived for 5 days and then Ellenor died 14 days after his birth. Complications with the birth by the sounds of it.
The baby's burial should be on the records here as well.

 

[gibbo]

I can see no remarriage or death in Qld. for Eliza(beth).

960/1889 MORRIS WILLIAM - PATE ELIZA - SYDNEY

Possible
Death 17218/1913 MORRIS ELIZA J - WILLIAM - SARAH - GLEBE

Could well be her marriage and death Dave as it appears they ended up back in NSW
Death of her son to Pate

6735/1926 PATE WILLIAM R WILLIAM R ELIZA DRUMMOYNE

 

[DaveHam9]

Yes, it looked the most likely death but needs confirming.

MORRIS Eliza Funeral notice 24DEC1913 Funeral late of Forest Lodge Sydney Morning Herald 24DEC1913

There does not appear to be a death notice.


Birth 3474/1864 CREIGHTON ELIZA - WILLIAM - SARAH - REDFERN

 

[gibbo]

The Sydney Morning Herald (NSW : 1842 - 1954)(about)
Wednesday 24 December 1913

MORRIS- The friends of the late Mrs ELiza Morris are respectfully invited to attend her funeral to leave her residence ?? Bridge road Forest Lodge this {Wednesday] afternoon at 1 oclock for Rookwood Cemetery

 

[DaveHam9]

Yeas, thanks.

I'm waiting for a copy of a marriage certificate for one of the ADLEMs.