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William Gill 1806 Heeley Norton

duckweed

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I think this William is related to my husbands family but can't find any clear link. William is down on the census as 1806 sometimes Heeley sometimes Norton Derbyshire. His ocupation was Scaley cutter in 1851 census in Sheffield (Think it should be scale cutter). Biographical detail puts his birth at 1810. I have a William Gill born in Norton in 1809 to a William Gill. Unfortunately have no idea about who this parent was. My husbands link to the Gills in Norton is Hannah Gill born 1783 in Greenhill Norton to Benjamin Gill and Ann Shepherd. She had 2 brothers and a sister. Benjamin born 1791 and John born about 1781/82. John was apprenticed to a scissor cutler in 1792. The only Benjamin I can find that is the right age is down in the 1841 census as being Yorkshire not Derbyshire. I can't find John. I wondered whether William was Johns Son as the other William 1809 seems to have died as a young child but it is all unclear. The only John Gill marriages are too late for William. There is an Edward born 1826 Heeley ascribed to John in a family tree but no further details. A John is the Sheffield trades is described as a table knife forger. I can't come up with any clear census records in 1841 or 1851 for John. Anyone find any Norton Heeley Greenhill or Coal Aston Gills for me?
 

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Heeley and Norton appear to be 2 and 4 miles from Sheffield, with the country border somewhere between them, so it's not surprising that Benjamin's birthplace looks 'wrong'.

On the IGI (which I'm sure you've done to death on this query) I found a John Gill marrying a Hannah Smith in Sheffield 02JUN1777, then having a son William in 1780. This makes him old enough to father another William by around 1809. As the name Benjamin runs in the family, it could be that John does too, and that John who married Hannah was Hannah's (Benjamin's daughter) uncle.

Vague guesswork I know, but perhaps somewhere to start.
 

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I'll keep a note of it and see if I can find some more info. I think I shall go to the Archives when the weathers better and see if I can find any more parish records. I've posted on several sites so maybe someone will come up with something. The name is sometimes badly spelt so I'm having difficulty finding all family members on the census records too.
 

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