William Harvey b 1815 d 1884 Breadalbane

[barbarajoh]

I have a Wm Harvey born 1815 who was convicted of stealing in Edinburgh in Feb 1835 and sent to NSW on the Marquis of Huntly 1835. He married Catherine Hutchins and they had several children

Wm George b 1857
Emma Martha 1858
Elizabeth Jane 1860
Thomas 1862
Caroline Janet 1863
Andrew 1866
James 1869
Emily Ann 1872
Margaret Waldie Harvey 1874
John Waldie Harvey 1879
Sydney Samuel Harvey 1880

Family story is Wm came from Kelso, Roxburghshire Scotland but there is no birth in the records and no mention of Kelso in his trial report in the Scotsman newspaper. Trying to find his parents for someone. Ship and trial seems accurate not sure about children and Harvey seems to sometimes be Hervey in Scotland.

 

[emeltee]

The only likely baptism I can find is

William Harvey baptised 30 April 1814 St Cuthbert's, Edinburgh, parents James Harvey and Ann, nee Swan.

Emeltee

 

[barbarajoh]

Thanks Emeltree, I should probably look for this one in the census at least to either not find or discount......

There is a Wm Harvey cabinet maker in Edinburgh born there 1814 with a wife Elizabeth and daughters Ann, Jane and Mary in 1851 on FMP. I can't find this one in 1841 to check if they have a James too. And I can't find the 1851 Wm on Ancestry!



Barbara

 

[DaveHam9]

William Harvey, one of 320 convicts transported on the Marquis of Huntly [Marquis of Huntley], 23 March 1835.
Sentence details: Convicted at Edinburgh Court of Justiciary for a term of 14 years on 02 February 1835.
Vessel: Marquis of Huntly [Marquis of Huntley].
Date of Departure: 23 March 1835.
Place of Arrival: New South Wales.
Source: Australian Joint Copying Project. Microfilm Roll 90, Class and Piece Number HO11/10, Page Number 24

Convict Ship Marquis of Huntley 1835
Embarked: 320 men
Voyage: 100 days
Deaths: 0
Surgeon's Journal: yes
Captain Molison.
Surgeon Superintendent Alick Osborne R.N.

 

[DaveHam9]

HARVEY William Marquis of Huntley 1835 44/1846 Ticket of Leave [4/4191; Reel 953] District: Yass; Tried: Edinburgh CJ

ToL in 1844 but no record in the index for date of Conditional or Absolute Pardon = CP, AP.


Marriage 134/1853 V1853134 43B HARVEY WILLIAM - HUTCHINS CAROLINE - MC= CofE Bungonia; Goulburn; St Saviour's (Co. Argyle); Goulburn Plains; Lake Bathurst; Marulan

This death is in the right area:

HARVEY WILLIAM 6188/1884 JOHN JANET - ARGYLE * 24 Nov


Can't see a notice in Trove so far.

 

[DaveHam9]

Births
HARVEY WILLIAM G 6637/1857 WILLIAM CAROLINE - GOULBURN
HARVEY EMMA M 7201/1858 WILLIAM CAROLINE - GOULBURN
HARVEY ELIZABETH J 6990/1860 WILLIAM CAROLINE - GOULBURN
HARVEY THOMAS 7614/1862 WILLIAM CAROLINE - GOULBURN
HARVEY CAROLINE J 7950/1863 WILLIAM CAROLINE - GOULBURN
HARVEY ANDREW 8508/1866 WILLIAM CAROLINE - GOULBURN
HARVEY JAMES 10757/1869 WILLIAM CAROLINE - GOULBURN
HARVEY EMILY ANN 10018/1872 WILLIAM CAROLINE - GOULBURN
HARVEY MARGARET 11102/1874 WILLIAM CAROLINE - GOULBURN
HARVEY JOHN WALDIE 13478/1879 WILLIAM CAROLINE - GOULBURN

Oh.
HARVEY SYDNEY SAMUEL 8261/1880 CHARLES WILLIAM CAROLINE - ST LEONARDS

Last one in Sydney suburb north of harbour.

Last one may not fit given father's name in reg.

I'm having issues with FS. When I load the page the computer CPU races and the page does not fully load.

Can't find the right death yet for Caroline.

 

[DaveHam9]

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/100238965
Goulburn Herald (NSW : 1881 - 1907) Mon 28 Jun 1897 Page 2 COURT OF PETTY SESSIONS.
...
Ann Harvey, off Clifford-st., £11; £7
Caroline Harvey, off Clifford-st., £11; £7


https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/98722998
Goulburn Evening Penny Post (NSW : 1881 - 1940) Sat 29 Jun 1901 Page 2 OLD AGE PENSIONS.
Caroline Harvey, widow, said she was 66 years
of age, a native of England, and came to the colony
in 1849. Appllcation granted.

 

[DaveHam9]

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/98924396
Goulburn Evening Penny Post (NSW : 1881 - 1940) Sat 14 May 1921 Page 2 OBITUARY.
The death occurred of Mrs. Caroline
Harvey at her daughter's residence,
Sydney, on Tuesday May 10, at the
age of 87 years. Mrs. Harvey resided
for a number of years in Goulburn. She
is survived by five sons and four
daughters. The sons are William
(Coogee), Thomas (Griffiths), An-
drew (Cronulla), James (Bathurst), and
John (Goulburn), and the daughters
are Mrs. Leecount, Mrs. Gale (Goul-
burn), Mrs. Elliott (New Zealand),
and Mrs. Davis (Sydney). There is
a large number of grandchildren and
great-grandchildren.

Death HARVEY CAROLINE J 5004/1921 WILLIAM - - SYDNEY * 10 May

 

[horse]

Not sure if helps that much..

NSW, Convict Indents, 1788-1842
William Harvey
Age: 20
Date of Conviction: 2 Feb 1835
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1815
Vessel: Marquis of Huntley (4)
Port of Arrival: New South Wales
Date of Arrival: 5 Jul 1835
Ticket of Leave: No
Pardon: No
Certificate of Freedom: No
Image has:
Native place, Kelso. Can read. Protestant. Occ = shoemaker, indifferent, seaman. Offence = picking pockets. Tried at Edinburgh.

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

Lots of possible deaths for a William Harvey, but only one in Goulburn/Yass area. One a bit further south in Wagga.

Deaths
HARVEY MARGARET W 6183/1876 WILLIAM CAROLINE - GOULBURN

HARVEY WILLIAM G 12978/1933 WILLIAM CAROLINE - GRANVILLE

HARVEY ANDREW 23908/1937 WILLIAM CAROLINE - GUNNING

HARVEY JOHN WALDIE 27187/1941 WILLIAM CAROLINE - GOULBURN

HARVEY JAMES 28362/1953 WILLIAM CAROLINE - AUBURN

 

[DaveHam9]

Don't know what is going on with FS. I can't use it.

 

[horse]

Don't know what is going on with FS. I can't use it.

Seems OK here, strange why different areas have different results on the same site

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

I can't prove 1884 is the right death.

http://www.muchamore.id.au/john_caroline_hutchins.html

E. Caroline HUTCHINS, b. 1836 in St. Buryan, Cornwall, baptized 11 Sept 1836 in Churchtown, St. Buryan, Cornwall, d. 10 May 1921 in ?Milsons Point NSW.

She married William HARVEY, married 13 Nov 1855 in Goulburn, b. 1818 in Scotland, d. 24 Nov 1884 in Breadalbane. William: Wiliam's parents were John Harvey and Janet Waldie.

Don't think this one fits
11. Sydney Samuel HARVEY, b. 1880.

 

[horse]

I can't prove 1884 is the right death.

No, nothing to support any of the info in the record yet..

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

The marriages on that tree do not agree with the names in Caroline's death notice.

All errors or three daughters remarried.

the daughters
are Mrs. Leecount, Mrs. Gale (Goul-
burn), Mrs. Elliott (New Zealand),
and Mrs. Davis (Sydney).

Marriages
3156/1878 GALE HENRY - HARVEY ELIZABETH J - GOULBURN
3303/1898 LEECOUNT SAMUEL - HARVEY EMMA M - GOULBURN
Elliott ?
Davis?

Caroline & Emily

Tree has the wrong marriage
8774/1900 SPICER WILLIAM - HARVEY ELIZABETH - GULGONG

 

[horse]

I haven't found a suitable tree yet

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

Tree looks to be correct with this marriage

3358/1882 GUYMER WILLIAM ARTHUR - HARVEY CAROLINE JANET - GOULBURN

so a 2nd one for Caroline ?? Yes.

3811/1894 ELLIOTT DAVID A - GUYMER CAROLINE J - GOULBURN


Emily Ann must have married Davis. ?? Perhaps 2 marriages as well. Caroline died in Sydney (Milson's Point ??) in 1921 at her daughter's residence - Mrs Davis.

Davis/Davies. Still can't find the right Emily.

If Milson's point is correct then not in North Sydney Division in 1930.

No death for an Emily Davis/Davies after 1921 with parents that fit.

 

[horse]

Trees I've seen are mainly private, they have William's birth 1815 Lanarkshire, 1818 Scotland and others.. Because they are private only limited info, cannot check any other info..

Geoff

 

[horse]

??

New South Wales, Australia, Registers of Coroners' Inquests, 1821-1937
William Arthur Guymer
Death Year: Abt 1885
Inquest Date: 7 Feb 1885
Inquest Place: Baw Baw
[Killed by a stone from a blast]

Geoff

 

[horse]

Really need to see the details of that 1855 marriage, i.e. church or PR..

Geoff