William Henry Northey

[croyle94]

Any help would be appreciated. From what I have found he married a woman by the name of Catherine and had at least 1 child named Elizabeth Northey.

 

[emeltee]

Hi,

What dates are we looking at here, do you have any idea? Also what area of the country? The more information you can give, however small, is of help.

Emeltee

 

[davelambert271]

In think we need to be looking at Aussie records - see
http://www.forum.familyhistory.uk.com/showthread.php?t=15814&page=6 post No 56

 

[DaveHam9]

NSW Marriage 3098/1869 NORTHEY WILLIAM - KENEDY CATHERINE - ORANGE ** 15 Mar

Death 16410/1917 NORTHEY CATHERINE - - ELLEN D - HILL END ** 28 Oct

Death 11971/1918 NORTHEY WILLIAM H - ROBERT - PETERNELL - HILL END ** 29 Jun

Not in Ryerson

CofE Hill End Cemetery
Northey Catherine 28 Oct 1917 72y w/William Henry Hill End General Ang
Northey William Henry 29 Jun 1918 75y h/Catherine Hill End General Ang

 

[DaveHam9]

Robert Northey & Peternel Whitford Trenberth
18 Nov 1838 Gwennap, Cornwall, England

1841
Piece: HO107/137/9 Place: Kerrier -Cornwall Enumeration District: 13
Civil Parish: Gwennap Ecclesiastical Parish: -
Folio: 50 Page: 26
Address: Carharrack
Surname First name(s) *** Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
NORTHY Robert M 20 Miner Cornwall
NORTHY Patience F 20 Cornwall
NORTHY Mary F 1 Cornwall
NORTHY William M 15 Miner Cornwall
NORTHY Ann F 15 Cornwall

1851
Piece: HO107/1910 Place: St Clement -Cornwall Enumeration District: 1R
Civil Parish: Kenwyn Ecclesiastical Parish: St Pauls Chacewater
Folio: 579 Page: 8 Schedule: 33
Address: Todpool
Surname First name(s) Rel Status *** Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
NORTHY Robert Head M M 30 Copper Miner Cornwall - Kenwyn
NORTHY Peternall Wife M F 31 Cornwall - Gwennap
NORTHY Mary Dau - F 10 Cornwall - Gwennap
NORTHY Will Son - M 8 Cornwall - Gwennap
NORTHY Ann Dau - F 4 Cornwall - Kenwyn
NORTHY Robt Son - M 1 Cornwall - Kenwyn

1861
Piece: RG9/1577 Place: Redruth -Cornwall Enumeration District: 17
Civil Parish: Gwennap Ecclesiastical Parish: Gwennap
Folio: 94 Page: 23 Schedule: 135
Address: -
Surname First name(s) Rel Status *** Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
NORTHEY Robert Head M M 40 Copper Miner Cornwall - Gwennap
NORTHEY Peternall Wife M F 42 Cornwall - Gwennap
NORTHEY Mary Dau U F 20 Mine Girl Cornwall - Gwennap
NORTHEY William Son U M 18 Copper Miner Cornwall - Gwennap
NORTHEY Ann Dau - F 14 Cornwall - Gwennap
NORTHEY Robert Son - M 11 Copper Miner Cornwall - Gwennap
NORTHEY Elizth Dau - F 10 Cornwall - Gwennap
NORTHEY James Son - M 6 Cornwall - Gwennap
EUSTICE John Son - M 1 Cornwall - Gwennap
EUSTICE Mary Niece - F 7 Cornwall - Gwennap


James Knight & Ann Treberth
10 Apr 1827 Gwennap,​ Cornwall,​ England

 

[DaveHam9]

Robert and Peternell Northey and their 8 children arrived in Sydney, Australia, as Assisted
Immigrants aboard H.M.S. Lobelia on 14 February 1863, having departed Plymouth 8
November 1862. [NSW Shipping Records - Reels 2139, 2481].

Reel 2481
Robert 42 Miner Gwynopp [Gwennap] Cornwall Both dead Prot. Read Brother Wm. Northey in Bathurst Good None Wm. Northey £8
Peternell 42 Housekeeper Gwynopp [Gwennap] Cornwall Father dead mother Ann Knight in Gwynopp [Gwennap] Prot. Read £6
Mary 22 Servant £3
Wm Henry 20 Miner £5
Ann 16 Servant £3
Robert 13 £5
Elizabeth 10 £2
Mary Jane 8 £2
James Kt. 7 £3
Grace 7 mo -


Robert's brother & family arrived first:
Arrived 12 Feb 1849
NORTHY William 24 Harbinger 1849 Sydney and/or Newcastle and family Reel 2135, [4/4786] Page 252; Reel 2459, [4/4909]
NORTHY Eliza 32 Harbinger 1849 Sydney and/or Newcastle and family Reel 2135, [4/4786] Page 252; Reel 2459, [4/4909]
NORTHY Rosina 2 Harbinger 1849 Sydney and/or Newcastle and family Reel 2135, [4/4786] Page 252; Reel 2459, [4/4909]
NORTHY Mary inft Harbinger 1849 Sydney and/or Newcastle and family. Born on voyage (bv) Reel 2135, [4/4786] Page 252; Reel 2459, [4/4909]

Death 17773/1917 NORTHEY ROBERT - ROBERT - JANE - MUDGEE

NORTHEY Robert Death notice 07NOV1917 Death 68 late of Mudgee and Hill End SMH 10NOV1917

 

[DaveHam9]

NSW Birth 19476/1874 NORTHEY ELIZABETH - WILLIAM HENRY - CATHERINE - HILL END ** 22 Apr

Marriage 774/1903 SANDS JAMES H - NORTHEY ELIZABETH - BATHURST ** 24 Jan


1933 NSW Electoral Roll - Lang - Petersham West
SANDS Elizabeth, 36 Constitution road, home duties
SANDS Marjory Alice, 36 Constitution road, clerk

1936 NSW Electoral Roll - Parkes - Marrickville West
SANDS Elizabeth, 36 Constitution road, home duties
SANDS Florence Jean, 36 Constitution rd., Dulwich Hill, salesgirl

1943 & 1947 NSW Electoral Roll - Parkes - Dulwich Hill
SANDS Elizabeth, 496 New Canterbury road, home duties
SANDS Heather Beryl, 496 New Canterbury road, saleswoman

Death 3550/1948 SANDS ELIZABETH - WILLIAM HENRY - CATHERINE - MARRICKVILLE

SANDS Elizabeth Death notice 18FEB1948 Death late of Dulwich Hill SMH 19FEB1948

The Sydney Morning Herald - Thursday 19 February 1948 p.14
DEATHS
SANDS, Elizabeth.-February 18, 1948, at her residence, 496 New Canterbury Road, Dulwich Hill, widow of the late James Sands, and loved mother of Kath (Mrs. Price), Marjorie (Mrs. McDonald), and Heather.

FUNERALS
SANDS.-The Relatives and Friends of Mr. and Mrs. J. D. Price, Mr. and Mrs. R. McDonald, Mr. and Mrs. D. McConnell, and their Families and Miss Heather Sands, are invited to attend the Funeral of their loved Mother, Mother-in-law and Grandmother, ELIZABETH SANDS, to leave Baptist Church, Hurlstone Park, To-morrow (Friday) morning, after a Service commencing at 9.45 o'clock, for the Presbyterian Cemetery, Rookwood.
Walters and Son, Dulwich Hill Terminus.
'Phones LM1676, LM1458 and 9.

Presbyterian 5E 0000313 SANDS ELIZABETH 18 Feb 1948

ROOKWOOD CEMETERY
NAME: Elizabeth Sands
AGE: 73
DEATH DATE: 18th February 1948
DENOMINATION: Presbyterian
DETAILS: Section: 5E, Row: 4, Grave: 313
INSCRIPTION: Wife of above

 

[DaveHam9]

Birth 3547/1869 SANDS JAMES S - WILLIAM - SUSANNA - GLEBE
Bap 726/1869 V1869726 46 SANDS JAMES S - WILLIAM - SUSANNAH

Page 55
Presbyterian Baptisms solemnized in the Parish of - in the County of - in the Year 18
No. 726 When Baptised: 25th July 1869 When Born: 15th June 1869 James Swan - William Sands & Sussanah ? Farmer Abode: Norton Street Glebe Quality or Profession: Baker By whom the Ceremony was performed: Robert Steel M.A. Ph.D.

Enlisted for Boer War - R/N 373 Private NSW Imperial Bushmen - 'F' Coy Lance Corporal 22 Apr 1901 - Queen's South Africa Medal & 5 clasps (CC OFS Tvl. Rhod. & SA01)

1891 NSW Sands Directory
SANDS James 50 Denham st, Glebe

1892, 1893, 1894 NSW Sands Directory
SANDS James, grocer, 59 Denham st, Glebe

1903 NSW Electoral Roll - MACQUARIE - BATHURST POLLING-PLACE
3910 SANDS James Swan, Morrissett Street, Bathurst, clerk

1913 NSW Electoral Roll - UPPER HUNTER - QUIRINDI POLLING-PLACE
1045 SANDS Elizabeth, Station-street, domestic duties
1046 SANDS James Swan, Station-street, baker

1930 NSW Electoral Roll - Lang - Petersham West
SANDS Elizabeth, 44 Constitution road, home duties
SANDS James Swan, 44 Constitution road, grocer
SANDS Kathleen Beatrice, 44 Constitution road, typiste

Death 15643/1931 SANDS JAMES S - WILLIAM - SUSAN - NEWTOWN

The Sydney Morning Herald - Monday 10 August 1931 p.8
DEATHS
SANDS.-August 8, 1931, at Royal Prince Alfred Hospital, James Swan Sands, beloved husband of Elizabeth Sands, and loving father of Katherine, Marjorie, Jean, and Heather, aged 62 years.

The Sydney Morning Herald - Monday 10 August 1931 p.7
FUNERALS
SANDS.-The Relatives and Friends of Mrs. ELIZABETH SANDS and FAMILY are invited to attend the Funeral of their beloved HUSBAND and FATHER, James Swan Sands, to leave the Private Mortuary Chapel of Motor Funerals, Limited, 30 City-road, city, THIS MORNING, at 9.30 o'clock, for the Presbyterian Cemetery, Rookwood, per motor service.
MOTOR FUNERALS, LIMITED, 30 City-road, city.
Tele. M6277.

SANDS.-The Relatives and Friends of Mr. DAVID SANDS and Mrs. J. MORGAN are invited to attend the Funeral of their beloved BROTHER, James Swan Sands, to leave the Private Mortuary Chapel of Motor Funerals, Limited, 30 City-road, city, THIS MORNING, at 9.30, for the Presbyterian Cemetery, Rookwood, per motor service.
MOTOR FUNERALS, LIMITED.

Presbyterian 5E 0000313 SANDS JAMES SWAN 08 Jun 1931

ROOKWOOD CEMETERY
NAME: James S. Sands
AGE: 62
DEATH DATE: 8th August 1931
DENOMINATION: Presbyterian
DETAILS: Section: 5E, Row: 4, Grave: 313
INSCRIPTION: Husband and our Father

 

[DaveHam9]

Marriage 4785/1878 NORTHEY ROBERT - JENKYNS SABITHA - HILL END

Death 8915/1879 NORTHEY ROBERT W - ROBERT - TABETHA - HILL END ** 7 Aug

Death 17773/1917 NORTHEY ROBERT - ROBERT - JANE - MUDGEE ** 7 Nov

NORTHEY Robert Death notice 07NOV1917 Death 68 late of Mudgee and Hill End SMH 10NOV1917

Northey Robert 1849? 7 Nov 1917 68 h/Tabitha; father Mudgee NSW Mth G

1861
Piece: RG9/1577 Place: Redruth -Cornwall Enumeration District: 17
Civil Parish: Gwennap Ecclesiastical Parish: Gwennap
Folio: 94 Page: 23 Schedule: 135
Address: -
Surname First name(s) Rel Status *** Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
NORTHEY Robert Head M M 40 Copper Miner Cornwall - Gwennap
NORTHEY Peternall Wife M F 42 Cornwall - Gwennap

I'm missing the deaths of Robert and Peternell.

 

[DaveHam9]

Did they return to England or die interstate?

 

[horse]

I'm missing the deaths of Robert and Peternell.

Something to ponder..

Roberi Northie
[Robert Northey]
DEATH DATE: 1866
DEATH PLACE: New South Wales
REGISTRATION YEAR: 1866
REGISTRATION PLACE: Orange, New South Wales
REGISTRATION NUMBER: 5778

Geoff

 

[horse]

Can't see anything to match Peternel and mother, re death

 

[horse]

Oh! A possible remarriage..

Whitford P Northy
[Peternell Whitford Northy]
SPOUSE: John Evans
MARRIAGE DATE: 1869
MARRIAGE PLACE: New South Wales
REGISTRATION PLACE: Orange, New South Wales
REGISTRATION YEAR: 1869
REGISTRATION NUMBER: 3124

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Geoff.

Robert Northey & Peternel Whitford Trenberth
Marriage 18 Nov 1838 Gwennap, Cornwall

Pity the Cornwall images of the parish records are no longer free on FS.

 

[horse]

Have you got Peternel's parents?

Geoff

 

[horse]

Looks like her death, her name is ripe for variants...

Petronell Evans
[Peternell Evans]
DEATH DATE: 1879
DEATH PLACE: New South Wales
REGISTRATION YEAR: 1879
REGISTRATION PLACE: Orange, New South Wales
REGISTRATION NUMBER: 7893

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

Half. :biggrin:

1863
Robert 42 Miner Gwynopp Cornwall Both dead Prot. Read Brother Wm. Northey in Bathurst Good None Wm. Northey £8
Peternell 42 Housekeeper Gwynopp Cornwall Father dead mother Ann Knight in Gwynopp Prot. Read £6

 

[horse]

Half. :biggrin:

1863
Robert 42 Miner Gwynopp Cornwall Both dead Prot. Read Brother Wm. Northey in Bathurst Good None Wm. Northey £8
Peternell 42 Housekeeper Gwynopp Cornwall Father dead mother Ann Knight in Gwynopp Prot. Read £6

hahaha..

William is her father he's on the mar. cert. Occ = miner.

 

[DaveHam9]

I don't have the Trenberth/Treberth in any census yet so I'd better look.

Also this marriage

James Knight & Ann Treberth
10 Apr 1827 Gwennap,​ Cornwal


I can't find the marriage of William to Ann Knight.

 

[horse]

Hmmm..

William Trenberth
MARRIAGE DATE: 1 Jun 1803
MARRIAGE PLACE: Gwennap, Cornwall, England
SPOUSE: Ann Whitford
FHL FILM NUMBER: 1595598
REFERENCE ID: 121

Geoff