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William Ives. 1868. Notting Hill, London.

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Hi all, another Ives lost in 1891 census.

William Ives. 1868. Notting Hill, London.

Father - Eli Ives
Mother - Mary Ann (nee.Winsbury).

1881 census with family.

1901 census, Widowed, with son Harry Ives(c1889. Kensington). Step children, William Robinson(c1893. Kensington), Mark Robinson(c1895,Kensington).

William Ives, married again in 1902 Kensington, to widow Annie Dyke(nee.Conway).

1911 census, with wife Annie, and children, Harry(c1898 ), Willie(1905) & Ellen Ives(1910), plus stepson Harry Dyke(1900).

Married Eliza Ellen Robinson, 1897 Kensington.

Thanks for looking.

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No joy Steve. Another one who has either evaded the enumerator or been horribly mistranscribed. Can't find son Harry either. The only William I did find, born Notting Hill had the wrong parents!

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Ah.....I'm pretty sure now, that Harry Ives(c1889) is not his son.

William Ives married Widow, Eliza Ellen Robinson(nee.Ward) in 1897 Kensington.

Eliza Ellen Ward married William Mark Robinson in 1890 Kensington.

William Mark Robinson died 1 Feb 1897 Kensington, aged 28 ish.

Harry Ives in either a Ward or a Robinson.:rolleyes:

So, I'll cross Harry Ives/Ward/Robinson off my list. YAY......one less IVES to find.:2fun:

BUT, if anyone can find Harry ? ? ? in 1891 census, I would be grateful, as he may lead to William Ives.....or not.:rolleyes:


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You won't find Harry Ives/Ward/Robinson in the 1891 Census as in the 1901 Census he is only two years old - born 1899 NOT 1889.Look at the birth year you have put for the 1911 Census. Put him back in your tree as it looks like he is William's son.

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You won't find Harry Ives/Ward/Robinson in the 1891 Census as in the 1901 Census he is only two years old - born 1899 NOT 1889.Look at the birth year you have put for the 1911 Census. Put him back in your tree as it looks like he is William's son.

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Maths wasn't my best subject.:eek::2fun:

Good job there are good folks to look out for me.redf)


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There is a possible Harry Ives marriage in Australia to Eileen Heehan ??.

No dates or places, as I have no access to Oz.


Harry Earnest Ives. ??
Relative - Ruth Ives/ ??
Birth 26 Jan 1898 - London, England
Military - 1939 - 1948 - Caulfield Victoria.
Service Number - V84552
Description - B884: Army Citizen Forces


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1st MARRIAGE
Registration No. 9170
Year 1929 Victoria, Australia
Harry Ernest IVES & Ruth Gwendoline RICHES

? Post 7 Maybe not your Harry who married Eileen Meehan

? The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) Tue 15 Sep 1942
DIVORCE COURT
Ives v Ives and Freeman


BIRTH
Registration No. 14880
Registration year 1909
RICHES Ruth Gwyndolen
Father Geo Edwd
Mother Hannah Mary Ann (Goodwin)
Place of birth TALLANGATTA


DEATH
Rgistration No. 3852
Registration year 1964
FREEMAN Gwendoline Ruth
Father RICHES George Edward
Mother Hannah Mary Ann (Goodwin)
Place of birth Tallangatta
Place of death Melbourne
Age53


2nd MARRIAGE
Registration No. 643
Registration year 1942
FREEMAN Clifford Jno Page & Ewen Ruth RICHES


https://billiongraves.com/grave/GWENDOLINE-RUTH-FREEMAN/12092572


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IVES, HARRY EARNEST
Service Australian Army
Service Number V84552
Date of Birth 26 Jan 1898
Place of Birth LONDON, ENGLAND

Date of Enlistment 6 Jun 1940
Locality on Enlistment MORRABBIN, VIC
Place of Enlistment CAULFIELD, VIC
Next of Kin IVES, RUTH
Date of Discharge 5 May 1944
Rank Sergeant
Posting at Discharge 115 HEIDELBERG MILITARY HOSPITAL
WW2 Honours and Gallantry None for display
Prisoner of War No


Births Mar Qtr 1898
Ives Harry Ernest Shoreditch 1c 120

We have several.

Where is the death of Harry E. ?
 
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I had to change browsers to look this up. :rolleyes:

Harry Ernest Ives 1963 Victoria La Trobe

Can't find in the index later so where is his death?



The Age (Melbourne, Vic. : 1854 - 1954) Thu 11 Jan 1940 Page 1
I, HARRY ERNEST IVES will Not be Respon
sible for any Debts contracted in my name
without my written authority. (Signed) H. E. Ives.

Trying to rule that one out.


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Harry Earnest Ives (1898 ), the son of George Edmund Hull Ives (1862) and grandson of Edmund Hull Ives (1832).
 
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Not this one who was 82

IVES HARRY 29603/1948 JOSEPH ELIZABETH KATOOMBA

and not this one who was 68

IVES HARRY 29007/1978 DIED KOGARAH 068


The last one could have married Eileen Meehan in 1938.

Age rules him out.
 

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Name Harry Ives
Event Type Census
Event Date 31 Mar 1901
Event Place West Ham, Essex, England
County Essex
Civil Parish West Ham
Ecclesiastical Parish St Matthews
Sub-District Stratford
Registration District West Ham
Residence Note Union Road
Gender Male
Age 3
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Birth Year (Estimated) 1898
Birthplace Haggerston, London
Schedule Type 61
Page Number 10

George E Ives Head M 39 West Indies Jamaica * George Edmund Hull
Martha Ives Wife F 35 Shoreditch, London
Alfred Ives Son M 11 Hackney, London
Frank Ives Son M 9 Hackney, London
Charles Ives Son M 7 Haggerston, London
Clara Ives Daughter F 5 Haggerston, London
Harry Ives Son M 3 Haggerston, London * Harry Earnest
 

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FS has two entries for military service for a Harry Ernest Ives.Inn the first one he was born 1898 Acton, Middlesex anf joined the London Regiment in 1916 and in the second one the birth details are the same but he joined the Essex Regiment in 1919.

I am presuming that this is not the Harry Ives we are looking for.

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I think we can now rule out all the Harry Ives in Australia as being the son of William who has not been found in 1891.
 

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Name Harry Ives
Event Type Census
Event Date 31 Mar 1901
Event Place West Ham, Essex, England
County Essex
Civil Parish West Ham
Ecclesiastical Parish St Matthews
Sub-District Stratford
Registration District West Ham
Residence Note Union Road
Gender Male
Age 3
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Birth Year (Estimated) 1898
Birthplace Haggerston, London
Schedule Type 61
Page Number 10

George E Ives Head M 39 West Indies Jamaica * George Edmund Hull
Martha Ives Wife F 35 Shoreditch, London
Alfred Ives Son M 11 Hackney, London
Frank Ives Son M 9 Hackney, London
Charles Ives Son M 7 Haggerston, London
Clara Ives Daughter F 5 Haggerston, London
Harry Ives Son M 3 Haggerston, London * Harry Earnest

Hi, Dave, I just came across this post in my search for George Edmund Hull can you help me find more info about him? Where did you find this info? He is my gr gr grand dad.
Also why do you have H. Earnest starred? Thanks Jennifer
 

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Hi Jennifer,

I was helping Steve the original poster re a possible Ives in Australia.

I don't remember why I added the '*' ...

George E Ives Head M 39 West Indies Jamaica * George Edmund Hull

Harry Ives Son M 3 Haggerston, London * Harry Earnest

... so I will have to check.

Post #12 Taken from the web

Harry Earnest Ives (1898 ), the son of George Edmund Hull Ives (1862) and grandson of Edmund Hull Ives (1832).

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