William J Aller / Allen

[stevegraham85]

William believed born Australia 1838, occupation Mariner.

Married Susan Goodsell Hayes 2806/1862

I can't find when he died or much else on him.

Any help please.

Oz

 

[gibbo]

Morning Oz,
There are so many William Allen's. You know his parents names?

 

[stevegraham85]

Morning Oz,
There are so many William Allen's. You know his parents names?

No not for sure.

Maybe easier as Aller

What about buying marriage cert, could that help.

 

[gibbo]

No not for sure.

Maybe easier as Aller

What about buying marriage cert, could that help.

The marriage cert IF filled out properly should have a whole heap of info on it such as parents names, place of birth etc. I have gotten marriage cert from that era and there has been very little info but others have had heaps on them. Marriage cert can be great as you can get info on the groom as well as the bride on one cert. So if filled out correctly it would be a big help.

 

[stevegraham85]

The marriage cert IF filled out properly should have a whole heap of info on it such as parents names, place of birth etc. I have gotten marriage cert from that era and there has been very little info but others have had heaps on them. Marriage cert can be great as you can get info on the groom as well as the bride on one cert. So if filled out correctly it would be a big help.

I'll speak to cousin Kimba and if she doesn't know anything then we'll order marriage cert.

 

[gibbo]

I'll speak to cousin Kimba and if she doesn't know anything then we'll order marriage cert.

Ok:biggrin:

 

[stevegraham85]

William believed born Australia 1838, occupation Mariner.

Married Susan Goodsell Hayes 2806/1862

I can't find when he died or much else on him.

Any help please.

Oz

Could someone recheck that marriage cert no to make sure it's correct please

 

[gibbo]

Could someone recheck that marriage cert no to make sure it's correct please

Hi Oz, yep its correct:biggrin:

2806/1862
groom ALLAN WILLIAM J
bride HAYS SUSAN
district PENRITH

 

[stevegraham85]

Hi Oz, yep its correct:biggrin:

2806/1862
groom ALLAN WILLIAM J
bride HAYS SUSAN
district PENRITH

Thanks Sandy.

I notice he's been married under Allan, they were a damn nuisance this mob with their Alias's.

sometimes It's Alles, Aller, Allen and Allan

Oz

 

[gibbo]

Thanks Sandy.

I notice he's been married under Allan, they were a damn nuisance this mob with their Alias's.

sometimes It's Alles, Aller, Allen and Allan

Oz

Hi Oz,
Personally i think its Allan and the Aller's etc maybe transcribing errors.

 

[stevegraham85]

Hi Oz,
Personally i think its Allan and the Aller's etc maybe transcribing errors.

When daughter Lucy married it was as Allen, at a later date she had it reissued as Aller.

Can we find birth details on William?

Their a weird mob. As Nino Culotto would say.

Oz

 

[gibbo]

When daughter Lucy married it was as Allen, at a later date she had it reissued as Aller.

Can we find birth details on William?

Their a weird mob. As Nino Culotto would say.

Oz

I checked for births the other day and unless we have more info im not sure which one would be his, if any. To many William Allens around.

Maybe when Lucy married it was spelt with a "n" on the end of the name but when transcribed for the indexes it looked like a "r" Easily enough done with the cert. been so old maybe part of the N had worn away.

 

[stevegraham85]

Re: William J Aller / Allan

William J Allan / Aller and Susan Hays got married is there any record of children born

I already have Lucy and Maud, Kimbo suggested there were also 2 brothers Arthur and William, could this be right.

Oz

 

[stevegraham85]

I checked for births the other day and unless we have more info im not sure which one would be his, if any. To many William Allens around.

Maybe when Lucy married it was spelt with a "n" on the end of the name but when transcribed for the indexes it looked like a "r" Easily enough done with the cert. been so old maybe part of the N had worn away.

In the family cemetery they are listed as AllER on their headstones.

 

[gibbo]

Oz, i cant find births for any of the kids in NSW. Is it possible they were born interstate?

 

[gibbo]

In the family cemetery they are listed as AllER on their headstones.

Thats interesting. I will try that spelling and see if any births for their kids come.

 

[stevegraham85]

Oz, i cant find births for any of the kids in NSW. Is it possible they were born interstate?

It is possible even though parents married Penrith nsw.

If any where else could be Victoria.

 

[gibbo]

Found these births in NSW under ALLER. I dont know if they are yours or not tho.


10119/1890
ALLER OSCAR J
father WILLIAM J
mother SUSANNAH
district CENTRAL CUMBERLAND

26256/1891
ALLER LEWIS J
father --
mother SUSAN A
district NEWTOWN

10570/1892
ALLER ALICE M
father WILLIAM J
mother SUSANNAH
district CENTRAL CUMBERLAND

 

[stevegraham85]

Found these births in NSW under ALLER. I dont know if they are yours or not tho.


10119/1890
ALLER OSCAR J
father WILLIAM J
mother SUSANNAH
district CENTRAL CUMBERLAND

26256/1891
ALLER LEWIS J
father --
mother SUSAN A
district NEWTOWN

10570/1892
ALLER ALICE M
father WILLIAM J
mother SUSANNAH
district CENTRAL CUMBERLAND

I recognize 2 of those names there but i notice no Lucy.

 

[gibbo]

I recognize 2 of those names there but i notice no Lucy.

Dont think we have ever found Lucy's birth. Maybe her birth wasnt registered for some reason or she was born elsewhere. Her marriage or death cert. should state where she was born.
Actually her death cert. should list her kids and their ages at the time of her death if filled out correctly.