William & James COOK

[DaveHam9]

Hello,

1841
Address - Islington, Liverpool, Lancashire
COOK Ellen abt 1786 age 55 Baker Lancashire
COOK William abt 1816 age 25 Lancashire
COOK Michael abt 1821 age 20 Lancashire
COOK James abt 1821 age 20 Lancashire
COOK Margaret abt 1826 age 15 Lancashire

I have Ellen with daughter Margaret now married in 1851.
I also have Michael on his own in 1851.


Please see if you can find James (b. 27 Aug 1820 Lime Street Chapel, Liverpool), who is still single, in1851.


William married in 1845 in Manchester and I have them in 1861:

1861 census
Name: William Cook
Age: 48
Est birth year: abt 1813
Spouse: Elizabeth
Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Civil parish: Hulme
Eccl parish: St Phillip
County: Lancashire
Street Address: 88, Newcastle Street
Occupation: Mechanic
Reg dist: Chorlton
Sub-reg dist: Hulme
ED: 3
William Cook 48
Elizabeth Cook 42
Ellen Cook 14
Margery Cook 12
William Cook 6
Children born Manchester

Please see if you can find William and family in 1851. Thanks.

Regards,

Dave

 

[p.risboy]

Maybe James here Dave.

1851 census.

James Thomas Cook
Age: 32
c.1819
Born: Liverpool.

C. P. Hunslet
E.P. St Jude
Yorkshire
R.D: Hunslet
S-R-D Hunslet
ED: 15

James Carter 41
Martha Carter 45
James Carter 16
Martha Carter 13
William Carter 11
Ephraim Carter 6
Solomon Carter 4
James Thos Cook . Lodger - Occ. Journeyman Joiner.
=======================================

As Margery Cook was born in Hulme Manchester, the family may be lost in the unfilmed part of Manchester....namely Greengate, and Regent Road, Salford.

Can't find no obvious 1851 entries Dave, for her family.


Steve.

 

[p.risboy]

Ellen Cornwell Cook. Born j/f/m 1846. Chorlton. Lancs.

Marjery Cook. Born j/f/m 1848. Chorlton. Lancs.

William Cook. Born a/m/j 1853. Chorlton. Lancs

Steve.

 

[p.risboy]

The family don't seem to appear in the unfilmed part of Salford.

Sorry Dave.

Steve.

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello Steve,

Thank you very much for looking.

Re James, he ended up in Australia where he married in 1864. They had 3 children by 1871 and then James and spouse vanish. I have nothing to indicate he had a middle name and no idea of his trade/profession. He has not been found in shipping records.

William and family are in the same area Hume from 1861 to 1891 so I guess they were in Lancashire in 1851. I'll put '1851 ?' in my database.

Regards,

Dave

 

[crankypants]

Hi Dave

1851 U.K Census
Civil Parish: Manchester
Registration District: Chorlton
Sub District: Hulme
County: Lancashire
Address: 88, Newcastle Street, Manchester

COOK, William Head Married M 38 1813 Mechanic? Liverpool Lancashire
COOK, Elizabeth Wife Married F 32 1819 Anston Yorkshire
COOK, Ellen Dau F 4 1847 Hulme Lancashire
COOK, Margery Dau F 3 1848 Hulme Lancashire

cheers
crankypants

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello crankypants,

Thank you very much.

Yes, mechanic and at same address as 1861.

Were they 'hiding' under CHOOK or something?

Regards,

Dave

 

[crankypants]

Hi Dave

I'm not sure if 'A' have H O 7 2221.

As you can see the image is a typed record.

cheers
crankypants

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello crankypants,

Ah, ok.

1891 census
Name: William Cook
Age: 78
Est birth year: abt 1813
Relation: Father
Spouse: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Civil parish: Moss Side
Eccl parish: St Margarets
County: Lancashire
Street Address: 6, Stanley Street
Occ: Engineer fitter (retired)
Reg dist: Chorlton
Sub-reg dist: Hulme
William J Cook 26 [?]
Rose Ann Cook 29 b. Sheffield
Maria E Cook 3 b. Manchester
William Cook 78 Father
Elizabeth Cook 74 Mother
Margery Cook 43 Sister

Elizabeth b. abt 1819 Anston, Yorkshire

Please see if you can find Elizabeth in 1901. Thanks.

Regards,

Dave

 

[crankypants]

Hi Dave

I've just had a look at Elizabeth's birthplace in 1891 census and it's Carlton in Lindrick, Nottinghamshire.

cheers
crankypants

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello crankypants,

Of course. :2fun:

Well 1851 and 1871 have Anston, Yorkshire.

I asked again because I'm not convinced by this one:

Name: Elizabeth Cook
Est. birth year: abt 1819
Year of Reg: 1894
Qtr of Reg: Apr-May-Jun
Age at Death: 75
District: Bury
County: Greater Manchester, Lancashire
Volume: 8c
Page: 275


They lived in Hulme from 1851 to 1891 so why Bury?

Regards,

Dave

 

[crankypants]

Hi Dave

Sorry I've had no luck in finding Elizabeth COOK in 1901.:'(

Perhaps a daughter living in Bury.

cheers
crankypants

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello crankypants,

Thanks for looking.

One daughter Margery unmarried aged 43 living with her in 1891.

Other daughter Ellen b. 1847 Hulme.

Now I don't have a marriage or death for Ellen or Margery.

Regards,

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello crankypants,

You can get lucky sometimes.

Marriages Mar 1868
Cook Ellen Cornwall Chorlton 8c 707
Taylor George Chorlton 8c 707

Please see what you can find. Thanks.

Regards,

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello crankypants,

1881
Dwelling 15 Derby St
Census Place Hulme, Lancashire, England
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 3934 / 96 Page Number 26
Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
George TAYLOR Head M Male 35 Rawtenstall, Lancashire, England Regt Chemist & Druggist (Not Practising)
Ellen C. TAYLOR Wife M Female 34 Manchester, Lancashire, England
Margaret TAYLOR Daur Female 12 Manchester, Lancashire, England Scholar
George TAYLOR Son Male 10 Manchester, Lancashire, England Scholar
William TAYLOR Son Male 8 Manchester, Lancashire, England Scholar
Helen L. TAYLOR Daur Female 6 Manchester, Lancashire, England Scholar
Gertrude M. TAYLOR Daur Female 3 Manchester, Lancashire, England
John TAYLOR Son Male 1 Manchester, Lancashire, England
Mary E. TAYLOR Serv Female 15 Ireland General Servant


This has to be the one out of hundreds of Ellen TAYLORs but only 3 with middle initial = C.

Deaths Jun 1936
Taylor Ellen C 89 Manchester S 8d 5

Deaths Jun 1918
Cook Margery C 70 Prestwich 8d 295

Regards,

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello crankypants,

Now it's getting rather interesting.

Marriages Mar 1887
Cook William John Chorlton 8c 874
Rogers Rose Ann Chorlton 8c 874

Regards,

Dave

 

[crankypants]

Hi Dave

1891 U.K Census
Civil Parish: Hulme
Registration District: Chorlton
Sub District: Hulme
County: Lancashire
Address: 3, Potter Street, Hulme, Manchester

TAYLOR, George Head Married M 45 1846 School Board Officer Rawtenstall Lancashire
TAYLOR, Ellen C Wife Married F 44 1847 Manchester Lancashire
TAYLOR, William Son Single M 18 1873 Commercial Clerk Manchester Lancashire
TAYLOR, Ellen L Daughter F 16 1875 Manchester Lancashire
TAYLOR, Gertrude M Daughter F 13 1878 Scholar Manchester Lancashire
TAYLOR, Sarah L Daughter F 8 1883 Scholar Manchester Lancashire
TAYLOR, John Son M 11 1880 Scholar Manchester Lancashire
TAYLOR, Margery B Daughter F 6 1885 Scholar Flixton Lancashire
TAYLOR, Harry Son M 0 (7W) 1891 Manchester Lancashire

cheers
crankypants

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello crankypants,

Thanks.

There are several in Bury so I've ruled them out.

This one is more likely.

Deaths Jun 1896
Cook Elizabeth 76 Manchester 8d 143

Regards,

Dave

 

[crankypants]

Hi Dave

1901 U.K Census
Civil Parish: Stretford
Registration District: Barton upon Irwell
Sub District: Stretford
County: Lancashire
Address: 41, Clifton Street, Stretford

TAYLOR, Ellen Head Widow F 54 1847 Manchester Lancashire
TAYLOR, Gertrude M Daughter Single F 23 1878 Drapers Assistant Manchester Lancashire
TAYLOR, John Son Single M 21 1880 Buyer Shipping House Manchester Lancashire
TAYLOR, Sarah L Daughter Single F 18 1883 Machine Embroideress Manchester Lancashire
TAYLOR, Margaret B Daughter Single F 16 1885 Pupil Teacher (Brd) Flixton Lancashire
TAYLOR, Henry Son Single M 10 1891 Manchester Lancashire


1901 U.K Census
Civil Parish: Stretford
Registration District: Barton upon Irwell
Sub District: Stretford
County: Lancashire
Address: 24, Premier Street, Stretford

PORTER, Bertha Head Married F 28 1873 Living On Own Means Sheffield Yorkshire (nee ROGERS)
COOK, Rose A Sister Married F 38 1863 Living On Own Means Sheffield Yorkshire
COOK, Maria E Niece Single F 13 1888 Manchester Lancashire
COOK, Bertha M R Niece Single F 1 1900 Manchester Lancashire

cheers
crankypants

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello crankypants,

Thanks.

:2fun: May I change my mind again? >

Deaths Dec 1898
Cook Elizabeth 79 Barton I. 8c 418

I was looking at this one for another season.

Elizabeth ROGERS c. 5 Apr 1818 Anston, Yorkshire, England
John & Sarah
Batch: C073861

Born a bit earlier hence I didn't think the Manchester one was a perfect fit.

I know it said she was born in Nottingham but twice it said Anston !!

Also, the census says Rose Ann ROGERS was born in Sheffield but I doubt that. It's not a common name and I can't see a birth in Nottingham 1862-1865. Ok, it says Sheffield again.

Regards,

Dave