William & Jane PARNWELL

[DaveHam9]

Hello,

Marriages Jun 1870
Parnwell William Islington 1b 355
CRIPPS Jane Islington 1b 355

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
Name: William Parnwell (occ. Drayman)
Age: Full Age
Spouse Name: Jane Cripps
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 25 Apr 1870
Parish: St Mark, Tollington Park
County: Middlesex
Borough: Islington
Father Name: William Parnwell (occ: Gardener)
Spouse Father Name: Michael Cripps (occ: Manufacturer Chemist)


I'd like a look up please for William (b. Cambridgeshire) and Jane (b. Middlesex) in 1871 only.

Regards,

Dave

 

[barbarajoh]

Not having any luck with this couple Dave. Tried FMP only.

Barbara

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello Barbara,

Thanks for looking. They are somewhere. I've seen no variations of the name yet.

Corona 1877 Sydney and family Reel 2140, [4/4801] Page 2; Reel 2488, [4/5002]
PARNWELL William 32
PARNWELL Jane 33
PARNWELL Beatrice 5
PARNWELL Nelly 1

Regards,

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

Possibly this one:

Births Sep 1843
PARNWELL William Caxton 14 29 mmn SMITH

NSW Death 11219/1923 PARNWELL WILLIAM - WILLIAM - PHOEBE - ASHFIELD

Not in Ryerson index so no age at death. No sign of a notice in TROVE.


groom's name: William Parnell
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bride's name: Phoebe Smith
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marriage date: 12 Oct 1829
marriage place: Elsworth, Cambridge, England
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indexing project (batch) number: M01155-3
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 2112085
reference number: p28 n82

 

[DaveHam9]

NSW Death 13158/1932 PARNWELL JANE - MICHAEL - FRANCES - MARRICKVILLE

Not in Ryerson index so no age at death. No sign of a notice in TROVE.

Possible
groom's name: Michael Cripps
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groom's age:
bride's name: Frances Jane Gregory
bride's birth date:
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marriage date: 01 Oct 1831
marriage place: Saint Andrew By The Wardrobe,London,London,England
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indexing project (batch) number: M02232-2
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 374344, 374345
reference number:

 

[DaveHam9]

Something is not quite right.

possible
Births Mar 1845
CRIPPS Jane Elizabeth Bloomsbury* 1 34
Cripps Jane Elizabeth Bloomsbury 1 54

or
Births Mar 1846
Cripps Jane Sarah Hendon 3 227

 

[DaveHam9]

Despite the fact the marriage has Jane's father as Michael there is a tree that has it as Thomas. Her birth 1843 Marylebone and mother = Jane. But it agrees she died in 1932 so it must be the death I posted with father = Michael. Don't know yet if the Frances bit and that marriage are right or not. No middle name for Jane here:

14932/1879 PARNWELL SYLVESTER WILLIAM JANE COOTAMUNDRA
16632/1881 PARNWELL FRANCIS WILLIAM WILLIAM JANE COOTAMUNDRA
13189/1882 PARNWELL EMILY CHRISTINA WILLIAM JANE PICTON

There seems to be no birth reg for Jane in 1843.

The tree only has the children born in Australia and not the two who arrived on the vessel.

Births Mar 1876
PARNWELL Nelly Islington 1b 259 mmn CRIPPS

 

[barbarajoh]

The one born in Elsworth, Cambridgeshire seems to be the son of William and Phoebe and then the son of William and Hannah. I can't find both in any census so perhaps Hannah is a second wife But this William is with Hannah in 1871. There are two Williams and Janes in 1871 but one is born Suffolk and one Devon. Are you sure about the Cambridge part?

Barbara

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello Barbara,

If the tree is correct then William was born Elsworth. Shipping record says Cambridgeshire but not all shipping records are correct re pob or parents:

New South Wales, Australia, Assisted Immigrant Passenger Lists, 1828-1896
Name: William Parnwell
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845 (born: Cambridgshire)
Age: 32
Gender: Male
Voyage Arrival Date: 23 Jul 1877
Vessel Name: Corona

New South Wales, Australia, Assisted Immigrant Passenger Lists, 1828-1896
Name: Jane Parnwell
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844 (born: London, Middlesex)
Age: 33
Gender: Female
Voyage Arrival Date: 23 Jul 1877
Vessel Name: Corona

So, either William & Jane are missing in 1871 or William was not born Cambridgeshire or the 'Suffolk' or 'Devon' bit is wrong.

Where were the 2x Jane born according to 1871?

Regards,

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

I can't see a death for Phoebe.

Found this one:

Marriages Sep 1855
Judson Hannah Caxton 3b 662
Parnwell William Caxton 3b 662

 

[DaveHam9]

Oh. This probably explains it:

New South Wales, Australia, Assisted Immigrant Passenger Lists, 1828-1896
Name: Beatrice Parnwell
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1872 (born: Toronto, Canada)
Age: 5
Gender: Female
Voyage Arrival Date: 23 Jul 1877
Vessel Name: Corona

New South Wales, Australia, Assisted Immigrant Passenger Lists, 1828-1896
Name: Nelly Parnwell
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1876 (born: London, Middlesex)
Age: 1
Voyage Arrival Date: 23 Jul 1877
Vessel Name: Corona

 

[barbarajoh]

here is the Elsworth one in 71 The two Janes were from Suffolk and Devon also.

William Parnwell
Age: 21
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850
Relation: Son
Father's Name: William Parnwell
Mother's Name: Hanah Parnwell
Gender: Male
Where born: Cambridgeshire, England
Civil parish: Elsworth
Town: Elsworth
County/Island: Cambridgeshire
Country: England
Registration district: Caxton
Sub-registration district: Caxton
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Household schedule number: 56
Piece: 1576
Folio: 10
Page Number: 11
Household Members: Name Age
William Parnwell 45
Hanah Parnwell 46
William Parnwell 21

Barbara

 

[barbarajoh]

our messages crossed

 

[DaveHam9]

I will view the shipping reel next time I'm at the library and hope it has parents listed for William and Jane. But this must be his death in NSW:

11219/1923 PARNWELL WILLIAM - WILLIAM - PHOEBE - ASHFIELD

The tree does not list the date of the marriage of William & Jane.

The tree does not have Beatrice or Nelly, the two born before the family arrived in Australia.


So we are missing a death for Phoebe.

Bit hard for that to be the right William if he is living at home the year after he married.

Looks like we had better wait until I can view the shipping record.

 

[DaveHam9]

Deaths Dec 1888
Parnwell Phoebe 78 Holborn 1b 436


1881
RG11 piece/folio: 1654 / 82 page 4
name: Phoebe Parnwell
age: 69
gender: Female
birth year: 1812
birthplace: Elsworth, Cambridgeshire, England
relationship to head of household: Wife
marital condition: Married
profession/occupation:
address: 13 Brook Street
census place: Elsworth, Cambridgeshire, England
Household Gender Age Birthplace
head William Parnwell M 73 Elsworth, Cambridgeshire, England
wife Phoebe Parnwell F 69 Elsworth, Cambridgeshire, England
grand son Arthur Bath M 7 Clerkenwell, Middlesex, England
lodger head Richard Newman M 26 Elsworth, Cambridgeshire, England

 

[DaveHam9]

Deaths Dec 1884
Parnwell William 76 Cambridge 3b 315

and this is probably the one with Hannah:

Deaths Dec 1878
PARNWELL William 49 Caxton 3b 294

 

[DaveHam9]

I'll check the shipping record on film at the library next week.

 

[barbarajoh]

finally in 1871 found Phoebe

PARNWELL, William Head M 64 1807 Cambridgeshire VIEW
PARNWELL, Phebe Wife F 60 1811 Cambridgeshire VIEW
REYNOLDS, Amelia Granddaughter F 11 1860 Cambridgeshire VIEW
REYNOLDS, Louisa Granddaughter F 6 1865 Cambridgeshire VIEW

Piece:1576

Folio:6

Page: 3

Registration District: Caxton

Civil Parish: Elsworth

Municipal Borough:

Address: Brook Street, Elsworth

County: Cambridgeshire

 

[barbarajoh]

and 1861 with William

PARNWELL, William Head Married M 53 1808 Agricultural Labourer
Elsworth, Cambridgeshire VIEW
PARNWELL, Phebe Wife Married F 49 1812 Labourers Wife
Elsworth, Cambridgeshire VIEW
PARNWELL, Samuel Son Unmarried M 19 1842 Agricultural Labourer
Elsworth, Cambridgeshire VIEW
PARNWELL, William Son Unmarried M 17 1844 Agricultural Labourer
Elsworth, Cambridgeshire VIEW
PARNWELL, Louisa Daughter Unmarried F 21 1840
Elsworth, Cambridgeshire VIEW
SMITH, Joseph Wifes Father Widower M 73 1788 Agricultural Labourer
Spaldwick, Hampshire VIEW
CLIFT, William Boarder M 4 1857 Scholar
Clapham, Surrey VIEW

Piece:1016

Folio:91

Page: 14

Registration District: Caxton

Civil Parish: Elsworth

Municipal Borough:

Address: Brook Street, Elsworth

County: Cambridgeshire

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello Barbara,

Thank you very much.

I'll still do the look up at the library.

Regards,

Dave