William JONES

[DaveHam9]

Marriage V1851501 37B/1851 JONES WILLIAM - WALLACE ANN - CW= CofE Abercrombie District, Bathurst

Page 18
Marriages solemnized in the Parish of Bathurst in the County of Bathurst in the Year 1851
No. 71
William Jones of the Parish of Mount Pleasant County of Bathurst
Ann Wallace of the Parish of Mount Pleasant County of Bathurst
married in this Church of All Saints by Banns with consent of friends
Eleventh day of October 1851 By me Thomas Sharpe M.A.
Parties signed:
Witnesses: Joseph Wallace of Mount Pleasant, Hannah Wallace of Mount Pleasant, Jno x Darney of Bathurst

William died after 1862 ??

Death 714/1902 JONES ANN - JOSEPH - ANN - BATHURST * 10 Jan

 

[gibbo]

Any more kids Dave?
Are these kids below the right family?

JONES MARY A 4559/1859 WILLIAM - ANN - BATHURST
JONES ELIZABETH A 5047/1860 WILLIAM - ANN - BATHURST
JONES RICHARD 4816/1863 WILLIAM - ANN - BATHURST

 

[DaveHam9]

Yes gibbo, plus - Bathurst, labourer

Bap V18522217 38A/1852 JONES JOSEPH - WILLIAM - ANN

Bap V18544091 40/1854 JONES HANNAH W - WILLIAM - ANN * W = Wallace

 

[gibbo]

So many William Jones's Narrowed it down to 2 in Bathurst since they seemed to have stayed in that area but who knows he could have gone away for work and died elsewhere. I can't find any family notices for these 2.

JONES WILLIAM 6610/1884 GEORGE - ELIZABETH - BATHURST
JONES WILLIAM 6872/1888 THOMAS - ALLISON - BATHURST

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks gibbo.

I didn't find any notice in Trove for Ann.

The witnesses to 1851 marriage are probably father Joseph and sister Hannah. Don't know if John Darney fits as a relation or friend.

Hannah married in 1856.

All Saints Bathurst Page 33
No. 130
John Wallis otp Bachelor
Hannah Wallace otp Spinster
married by Licence
Twenty-eighth February 1856 By me Thomas Sharpe M.A.
Parties signed:
Witnesses: Joseph Wallace of Bathurst, Ann Jones, William Wallace of Bathurst

Father Joseph, married sister and brother William.

 

[DaveHam9]

Death 4225/1879 WALLIS JOSEPH AGE 93 YEARS DIED BATHURST BATHURST

The Sydney Morning Herald - Wed 30 Apr 1879 p.1
Deaths.
WALLACE.-April 22, at Malmsbury, near Bathurst, of inflammation of the lungs, Joseph Wallace, in his 94th year. Deceased was father of the late Robert Wallace, of Charleville, Mulgoa.

Four children but only Robert mentioned.

 

[gibbo]

Not the easiest lot to follow Dave.

 

[gibbo]

Hannah married in 1856.

All Saints Bathurst Page 33
No. 130
John Wallis otp Bachelor
Hannah Wallace otp Spinster
married by Licence
Twenty-eighth February 1856 By me Thomas Sharpe M.A.
Parties signed:
Witnesses: Joseph Wallace of Bathurst, Ann Jones, William Wallace of Bathurst

Father Joseph, married sister and brother William.

Im confused Dave.

I can't find a marriage reg. for the above marriage nor the below marriage ... yet i found this.

Australian Town and Country Journal (Sydney, NSW : 1870 - 1907)
Sat 3 May 1873
On the 19th March, at All Saints' Cathedral, Bathurst, by the Right Rev. S. E. Marsden, D.D., Bishop of the Diocese, John, second son of the late Mr. Robert Wallace, Mulgoa, to Hannah Wallace, eldest daughter of Mr. William Jones, of Malmsbury, Bathurst.

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/70478244

edited.. found it. By the sounds of the above marriage notice William Jones was still alive in 1873.

1770/1873
WALLACE JOHN
JONES HANNAH WALLACE
BATHURST

Ok so the 1856 marriage and the 1871 marriage are two totally different marriages. Just all these names the same are doing my head in. So were John Wallace and Hannah Wallace Jones in the 1873 marriage cousins?? I had better leave it there for today cause i got myself all confused

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks gibbo.

You found a marriage I didn't have. But now it will take some explaining as to how it fits together.

Yes, it does seem William Jones was alive in 1873 when daughter Hannah W = Wallace Jones married.

Hannah is in my tree as a note in her mother's entry and not in the actual tree index. I will add her and her marriage that will create a loop in my tree because I already have Robert Wallis/Wallace of Mulgoa in my tree and children.

 

[DaveHam9]

Hannah Wallace Jones - mother = Ann Wallis from Wexford.

One of Ann's brother's is Robert Wallis from Wexford who lived at Mulgoa.

All of Robert's children were baptised in NSW as Wallace. One is son John who married Hannah W.

Hence cousins.

 

[gibbo]

Hannah Wallace Jones - mother = Ann Wallis from Wexford.

One of Ann's brother's is Robert Wallis from Wexford who lived at Mulgoa.

All of Robert's children were baptised in NSW as Wallace. One is son John who married Hannah W.

Hence cousins.

So i wasn't going nuts then?

 

[DaveHam9]

No.

Death WALLACE HANNAH W 8630/1934 WILLIAM - ANNE - BURWOOD

John's parents are Robert and Henrietta but no death with that mother.

If Burwood then this one ?

WALLACE JOHN 22591/1934 ROBERT - ANNE H - BURWOOD

 

[DaveHam9]

Back to Wallis for middle name.

WALLACE Hannah Wallis Death notice 27MAY1934 Death 80 at Strathfield Sydney Morning Herald 28MAY1934

??
WALLACE John Death notice 19SEP1934 Death 91 at Strathfield Sydney Morning Herald 20SEP1934 ** probably this one
WALLACE John Death notice 07NOV1934 Death 93 formerly of Mosman Sydney Morning Herald 08NOV1934
WALLACE John Funeral notice 04APR1934 Funeral Sydney Morning Herald 04APR1934


V18431100 27A/1843 WALLACE JOHN - ROBERT - HENRIETTA

 

[gibbo]

No one else buried with her.

Rookwood cemetery
Hannah W. Wallace
Date of Death : 28 MAY 1934
Age : 80
Plot : Salvation Army J_Zone F/#/774

Funeral notice

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/17059122

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks gibbo.

 

[gibbo]

WALLACE John Death notice 19SEP1934 Death 91 at Strathfield Sydney Morning Herald 20SEP1934 ** probably this one

Yes correct one

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/101340046

 

[DaveHam9]

So instead of saying William Jones died after 1862 we now say after 1873.

I just chased the brush turkey away and flattened two small mounds.

 

[gibbo]

I just chased the brush turkey away and flattened two small mounds.

Your entertainment for that turkey, he probably wakes up in the morning and looks forward to stirring you up

What about on of these things, it wont hurt him just scares them away.
https://www.sureguard.com.au/shop/product/scarecrow-motion-activated-sprinkler-solar-powered-1414

 

[gibbo]

So instead of saying William Jones died after 1862 we now say after 1873.

That is 11 years less we have to search. Im still looking tho not easy with a name like his, shame he didn't have a unusual middle name.

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks gibbo.

Probably won't deter the turkey who is rarely out in the open. Today he was behind the birds nest fern at the right close to the fence corner.