William Joseph PATTERSON & Mary Eleanor GRAHAM

[DaveHam9]

SCHEDULE G Registrar's District of Lisburn
1893 Marriage solemnized at Bailiesmills in the Parish of Drumbeg in the County of Down
No. 32 - 18th January 1893
John Patterson - Full - Bachelor - Bookbinder - 56 Pacey ? St Belfast - Wm Patterson - Miller
Margaret Graham - Full - Spinster - - - Cargycroy - James Graham - Farmer
Married in the Bailiesmills R P Church according to the usages of the Reformed Presbyterian Church of Ireland by Licence by me [signed] Saml. R McNully ? Officiating Minister
Parties: John Patterson, Margaret Graham
Witnesses: William Joseph Patterson, Mary Eleanor Graham

Trying again to find something on those witnesses.

Thanks,

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

Over 300 births for a Mary Graham and no middle name.

Over 200 births for a William Patterson and no middle name.

I checked 37 births in Lisburn for William Patterson and didn't find a William Joseph or a William with no middle name who looked to fit.

I can't find a William Joseph in 1901 census who fits.

 

[Ellie7]

PATTERSONfamily.came over from Scotland as part of the Plantation of Ulster 1607-1633PE..PATERSON/
PATTERSON..among the 20 most common surnames in Scotland; of Lowland origin; became widespread in Ulster & is now among the 5 most common surnames in Co. Down

 

[Ellie7]

Miss Mary GRAHAM. Drumbo regd. Ballylesson; wife of William Patterson ; mother of William b. 1873

 

[Ellie7]

Miss Martha GRAHAM.Drumbo daughter of James Graham ; married Joseph Oliver 26 Mar 1853CR
Miss Martha GRAHAM.Drumbo regd. Ballylesson; wife of Hugh Savage; mother of Hugh b. 1867
Miss Margaret GRAHAM.Drumbo daughter of Hugh Graham ; aged 20 married James Mageean 21 Sep 1860

 

[Ellie7]

http://rosdavies.com/SURNAMES/G/GrahamMW.htm

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Ellie.

John & Margaret named a son William Joseph Patterson born 1895.

I can't find a birth for the witness William Joseph Patterson or find him in 1901. That suggests he was born before 1864, as was Margaret Graham and John Patterson.

Re Mary Eleanor Graham, I'm hoping she is not married and born after 1864 but have not yet found a birth.

That marriage has several clues - Cargycroy and Reformed Presbyterian Church.

 

[Ellie7]

William J Patterson Head of Family -Widowed 60 1841 Down
John Patterson Son Single 28 1873 Down
Eliza Patterson Daughter Single 26 1875 Down
Jeanie Patterson Daughter Single 22 1879 Down
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[Ellie7]

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Down/Breda/Ballylesson/1238408/

 

[Elwyn]

The William J Patterson in Ballylessan looks to have been William John, not William Joseph.

William John Patterson of Ballylessan married Mary Rainey of the same townland in 1868:

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy...iage_returns/marriages_1868/11445/8204164.pdf

Both fathers named John. Witnesses Robert Patterson and Lizzie Rainey.

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Elwyn.

I just checked the birth of daughter Eliza and found mother as Mary Rainey.

That Patterson family does not fit so I'm stuck.

I've not managed to find the death of Margaret's father John Graham or connect the witnesses.

Dave

 

[Elwyn]

Dave,

Margaret Graham was living in Cargygray when she married and the marriage certificate names her father as James Graham, farmer:

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy...iage_returns/marriages_1893/10586/5856652.pdf

There’s only 1 Graham farm in Cargygray in Griffiths in 1863 (held by widow Eliza Anne Graham). A search of wills for James Graham and Cargygray leads to this probate abstract:

The Will of James Graham late of Cargygray in the County of Down Farmer deceased who died 12 April 1856 at same place was proved at Belfast by the oaths of Thomas Graham of Ballycarngannon (Lisburn) and James Graham of Clontonecally (Lisburn) both in the County of Down Farmers the Executors.

The will is on-line and mentions wife Betty Anne and a daughter Margaret who had married a McKee. It also mentions a son James Graham and he inherited a farm in Magheraconluce. Could he be Margaret’s father? In turn this looks to be the son James Graham’s death:

The Will of James Graham late of Magheraconluce County Down Farmer who died 13 July 1888 at same place was proved at Belfast by Joseph Kee of Clintagh said County and John Alexander of Mageraconluce Farmers the Executors.

He married Sarah Ann Spence in 1869:

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy...iage_returns/marriages_1869/11427/8197448.pdf

However his will, which is also on-line, makes no mention of any children and I can’t find any in the births indexes. So it doesn’t look as though he’s Margaret’s father. I am baffled as to who he was. I don’t see any other Graham connection with Cargygray.

Can’t help with the witnesses as the names as so common in that area.

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Elwyn for taking the time to search.

I've not managed to find the death of Margaret's father John Graham or connect the witnesses.

I do have the image of the marriage with father as James so that was a typo.

The witnesses have proved difficult to trace because it seems they were born around the same time as Margaret or a bit earlier so no birth reg.

Dave