William King and Eliza Ann Thomas

[Ladybird1300]

They had four daughters Marian Elizabeth b1854 Elizabeth b1860 Florence b1865 Louisa b1868,
Looking for a Marriage for Eliza b1830 Eton Bucks and William b c1831 Kings Lynn Norfolk. I have William in the 1851/71/81 and 91 census I think he died in 1893 Camberwell. I have Eliza in 1841/51/71 census and I think she died 1880 Camberwell.

I'm looking for Marian and Elizabeth after 1871, can't find a marriage or death that fits either and the same for the other daughters. Florence and Louisa are in the 1881 census but then I can't find anything.

This is the family in 1871 with Eliza's parents:


Civil Parish: St Mary Newington
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter
Town: Walworth
Registration district: St Saviour Southwark
Sub-registration district: St Peter Walworth
Household schedule number: 21
Piece: 618
Folio: 104
Page Number: 4


William King 40
Eliza A King 40
Marian King 15
Lizzie King 11
Florence King 6
Louisa King 3
William Thomas 71
Sarah Thomas 65

Many thanks Amanda

 

[solidrock2]

Hi Amanda ,
I can't seem to find the births of the children in the GRO with mmn Thomas. Are you sure that you have the right family, there is another William and Elizabeth in the 1861, both born in Buckinghamshire.
Berkhampstead Piece/Folio: 841 / 144 Registration Number: RG09 Page Number: 32

 

[Ladybird1300]

Yes they are the correct family. William and Sarah Thomas are my 3x g grandparents

Amanda

 

[solidrock2]

Just found this..

William THOMAS [Parents] was born about 1800 in Wraysbury, Buckinghamshire. He was christened on 1 Apr 1800 in St Andrews, Wraysbury, Buckinghamshire. He died on 24 Sep 1875 in Phelp Street, Walworth, Surrey. He married Sarah Anne ATKINS on 26 Mar 1823 in Eton, Buckinghamshire.


Sarah Anne ATKINS [Parents] was born about Jan 1804 in Eton, Buckinghamshire. She was christened on 29 Jan 1804 in Eton, Buckinghamshire. She died on 28 Oct 1881 in Pollock Road, Newington, Surrey. She married William THOMAS on 26 Mar 1823 in Eton, Buckinghamshire.


They had the following children: William Atkins THOMAS M ii Richard Atkins THOMAS F iii Emily Jane THOMAS was born about Sep 1828 in Eton, Buckinghamshire. She was christened on 7 Sep 1828 in St John, Eton, Buckinghamshire. F iv Eliza Ann THOMAS F v Sarah Maria THOMAS was born about 1833 in Clewer, Berkshire. She was christened on 21 Apr 1833 in William Street Independent church, Windsor, Berkshire. She died after 1851. M vi Frederick Henry THOMAS M vii Alfred Charles THOMAS M viii Henry Arthur THOMAS

Eliza Ann THOMAS [Parents] was born about Aug 1830 in Eton, Buckinghamshire. She was christened on 29 Aug 1830 in St John, Eton, Buckinghamshire. She died after 1871. She married Robert HARMAN on 10 Feb 1856 in St Mary at Lambeth, Surrey.
Robert HARMAN.Robert married Eliza Ann THOMAS on 10 Feb 1856 in St Mary at Lambeth, Surrey.

William HYNES was born about 1831 in Kings Lynn, Norfolk. He died after 1891. He married Eliza Ann THOMAS before 1859.


Eliza Ann THOMAS [Parents] was born about Aug 1830 in Eton, Buckinghamshire. She was christened on 29 Aug 1830 in St John, Eton, Buckinghamshire. She died after 1871. She married William HYNES before 1859.

Source
http://johndhb.me.uk/ftree/pafg124.htm

 

[Ladybird1300]

I know John Brown and he would have got the information from my tree because we are related through the Atkins family.
I don’t see how William Hynes can be right ??when his surname is King in all the census.
Another sister Sarah Maria Thomas Married Alfred Harmon, but I don’t seem to have that marriage either.

Amanda

 

[Ladybird1300]

I've looked at the marriage to Robert Harman, but there aren't any details. If you could find William as Eliza's father, then I may be able to follow what happened.

Thanks for that

Amanda

 

[solidrock2]

"I don’t see how William Hynes can be right ??when his surname is King in all the census."

Personally I think that William Hynes and William King are the same person, the birth year and place both Kings Kynn.
People have been know to change their names for many reasons.

 

[Ladybird1300]

Yes you may be right, I've found the marriage of Eliza and Robert but without details. The marriage is correct because Marion Eliza is living with William and Sarah in the 1861 census, but not Robert or Eliza.
Elizabeth is on GRO as William's daughter, but I'm still looking for the other daughters.
I'm wondering if Eliza was still married to Robert and it's why she isn't married to William, I'll keep digging but thanks for looking

Amanda

 

[solidrock2]

Hi Amanda ,
Still working on this, love a good mystery. I am thinking that William was born illegitimate as Hynes, his mother subsequently married someone called King and William adopted that name. Can't find a suitable marriage yet. There is a William King in the 1851, born 1831 Lynn, Norfolk living in Vincent Street, Stepney, Middlesex. Unmarried
Piece/Folio: 1552 / 550 Registration Number: HO107 Page Number: 3
I can't see the whole household as I have'nt got a sub.