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William Macfarlane/McFarlane and Agnes Macgregor

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Hi, Ive just started doing a family tree and Im a little lost with the below inregards to births for the following couple - William Macfarlane and Agnes Macgregor - from Glasgow, Scotland.
William Macfarlane (changed from Mcfarlane) when arriving in Australia 1841-1908
(Parents possibly Daniel Mcfarlane ? -1851 and Marion Watt 1800 - ?)

Wife of William is Agnes Macgregor 1842-1889
(Parents John Macgregor Unknown dates, and Agnes Allan 1818 - ?)

I have the following children of William Macfarlane/Agnes Macgregor -

Robert Grant Macfarlane 1881-1965 (Married Caroline E Simmons)
Isabella C Macfarlane 1878 - 1952 (Married David Sands)
Watt Macfarlane 1876 - 1934 (Married Maud H Briggs)
Agnes Macfarlane 1874 - All details unknown
Allan Macfarlane 1872 - 1940 (Married Anne 'Annie' Joseph)
James Macfarlane 1867 - 1926 (Married Mary Ann Rebecca Pike)

Are there any other children as I am quite stumped, or any other details that need to be added to the above.

Thank you in advance for your help.
 

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William McFarlane
Marriage year 1861
Marriage date 31 Dec 1861
Marriage place Milton,Glasgow,Lanark,Scotland
Spouse's first name(s) Agnes McGregor
Place Glasgow
County Lanarkshire
Country Scotland
Record set Scotland Marriages 1561-1910
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Parish Marriages
Collections from Scotland, Great Britain

also--SCotlandsPeople


MCGREGOR
AGNES
MCFARLANE
WILLIAM
1862
644/7 9
Milton
 

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Allan McFarlane
Event Type: Birth
Event Date: 10 Sep 1871
Event Place: Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland, United Kingdom
Event Place (Original): Milton, Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
***: Male
Father's Name: William McFarlane
Mother's Name: Agnes McGregor
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Name: William McFarlane
Event Type: Birth
Event Date: 14 Nov 1865
Event Place: Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland, United Kingdom
Event Place (Original): Milton, Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
***: Male
Father's Name: William McFarlane
Mother's Name: Agnes McGregor
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Name: Daniel McFarlane
Event Type: Birth
Event Date: 4 Apr 1862
Event Place: Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland, United Kingdom
Event Place (Original): Milton, Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
***: Male
Father's Name: William McFarlane
Mother's Name: Agnes McGregor
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James McGregor McFarlane
Event Type: Birth
Event Date: 1 Aug 1867
Event Place: Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland, United Kingdom
Event Place (Original): Milton, Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
***: Male
Father's Name: William McFarlane
Mother's Name: Agnes McGregor
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Edward McFarlane
Event Type: Birth
Event Date: 18 Oct 1869
Event Place: Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland, United Kingdom
Event Place (Original): Milton, Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
***: Male
Father's Name: William McFarlane
Mother's Name: Agnes McGregor
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Agnes Allan McFarlane
Event Type: BirthE
vent Date:
19 Aug 1873
Event Place: Barony, Lanarkshire, Scotland, United Kingdom
Event Place (Original): Barony, Lanark, Scotland
***: Female
Father's Name: William McFarlane
Mother's Name: Agnes McGregor
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John McFarlane
Event Type: Birth
Event Date: 30 Nov 1863
Event Place: Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland, United Kingdom
Event Place (Original): Milton, Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
***: Male
Father's Name: William McFarlane
Mother's Name: Agnes McGregor
 

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Agness Mcgregor
Last name McFarlane
Age 47
Denomination OLD PRESBYTERIAN
Birth year 1842Birth date 1842-02-05
Death year 1889
Death date 5 February 1889
Inscription
wife of William McFarlane
Cemetery Rookwood Cemetery
City Sydney
State New South Wales
Country Australia
Plot Section 5B ROW 19
Plot number 6785
Size 1
Record set Rookwood Cemetery
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
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1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census
7, Cedar Street, St George Glasgow, Milton, Lanarkshire, Scotlan

William McFarlane Head Married Male31 1840 Iron Dresser Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland
Agnes McFarlane Wife Married Female29 1842-Kilmarnock, Ayrshire, Scotland
Danieel McFarlane Son-Male9 1862 Scholar Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland
John McFarlane Son-Male7 1864 Scholar Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland
William McFarlane Son-Male5 1866-Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland
James McFarlane Son-Male3 1868-Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland
Edward McFarlane Son Unmarried Male1 1870-Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland
James McGregor Lodger Unmarried Male19 1852 Engine Fitter Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland
 

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James Mc Gregor
GenderMale
Birth year1855
Birth place Milton,Glasgow,Lanark,ScotlandBaptism year-Baptism date-Baptism place-
Father's John Mc Gregor
Mother's Janet Mc Allan
Place Glasgow CountyLanarkshire Country Scotland
Record set Scotland Births & Baptisms 1564-1950
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Thank you so much Ellie, it is so much appreciated!!!!
Have a nice trip away from the Sydney weather David, its looking quite miserable out there today.
 

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13/10/1839 McFARLANE WILLIAM DANIEL McFARLANE/MARION WATT FR562 M 654/ 30 205 Rutherglen

William b. 3 Aug 1839 c. 13 Oct 1839 Rutherglen, Lanark, Scotland
Daniel McFARLANE & Marion WATT
Batch: C116544

1841
Piece: SCT1841/644 Place: Glasgow -Lanarkshire ED: 22
Civil Parish: Glasgow Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: St George
Folio: 245 Page: 11
Address: Hamilton Hill
Surname First name(s) *** Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
McFARLANE Daniel M 37 Iron Miner Lanarkshire
McFARLANE Marrion F 34 Lanarkshire
McFARLANE James M 10 Outside Census County (1841)
McFARLANE Janet F 7 Lanarkshire
Page: 12
McFARLANE Catherine F 6 Lanarkshire
McFARLANE Christian F 3 Lanarkshire
McFARLANE William M 1 Lanarkshire

1851
Piece: SCT1851/644 Place: Glasgow -Lanarkshire ED: 25
Civil Parish: St Georges Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: Glasgow
Folio: 537 Page: 27 Schedule: 99
Roll: CSSCT1851_154
Address: 26 Society Row
Surname First name(s) Rel Status *** Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
McFARLANE Marion Head W F 51 Parish Relief Lanarkshire - Glasgow
McFARLANE Christina Dau F 13 Silk Weaver Lanarkshire - Glasgow
McFARLANE William Son M 11 Dresser in Foundry Lanarkshire - Glasgow
McFARLANE Marion Dau F 9 Lanarkshire - Glasgow
McFARLANE Edward Son M 7 Lanarkshire - Glasgow
plus lodgers

1861
Registration No: 644/7
Registration District: Milton
Civil Parish: Glasgow Maryhill
County: Lanarkshire
Roll: CSSCT1861_107 Page 9
ED: 45 Schedule: 42
Address: 26 Society Row
McFARLANE Marion Head Widow 59 Cadder Lanarkshire
McFARLANE William Son 21 Iron Dresser Cadder Lanarkshire
McFARLANE Marion Dau 20 Steam Loom Weaver Cadder Lanarkshire
McFARLANE Edward Son 18 Iron Molder Cadder Lanarkshire
+ lodgers


'Aberdeen' Oct 1885 Reels 2143, 2496
McFARLANE William 44 and family
McFARLANE Agnes 40
William 19
Allan 13
Agnes 12
Watt 9
Isabella 7
Robert 4

Departed Pylmouth 8 Sep 1885 Arrived Sydney 25 Oct 1885
William Labourer Lanark Presby Yes
Agnes Ayr Presby Yes
Reel 2496 *Can't read film - ink smudged*

Death# 7687/1908 MACFARLANE WILLIAM WILLIAM [?] - WATERLOO * 17 May 1908

The Sydney Morning Herald - Mon 18 May 1908 p.6
DEATHS
MACFARLANE.-May 17, 1908, at his residence Possil Park, Picton-street, North Botany, William MacFarlane, late of Eveleigh Government Workshops, native of Glasgow, aged 66 years. At rest. Home papers please copy.

The Sydney Morning Herald - Mon 18 May 1908 p.12
FUNERALS
MAC FARLANE.-The Friends of Mrs. SARAH MAC FARLANE, Messrs. DANIEL, JOHN, WILLIAM, JAMES, ALLEN, WATT, and ROBERT MAC FARLANE, and Mr. and Mrs. SANDS are kindly invited to attend the funeral of her late dearly beloved HUSBAND, and their FATHER, William, to move from his late residence, Possil Park, Picton street off King street, North Botany, THIS AFTERNOON, at 1 o'clock punctually, for Presbyterian Cemetery, Rookwood via Mortuary station.
FROST and COMPANY, Funeral Directors, Leichhardt and Dulwich Hill.
 

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No birth/baptism found

1851
Piece: SCT1851/644 Place: Glasgow -Lanarkshire ED: 23
Civil Parish: St Georges Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: Glasgow
Folio: 536 Page: 7 Schedule: 25
Address: 361 Garscube Road
Surname First name(s) Rel Status *** Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
FINLAY John Head M M 33 Shoemaker Renfrewshire - Pollokshaws
FINLAY Agnes Wife M F 33 Lanarkshire - Glasgow
FINLAY Agnes Dau - F 9 Scholar Ayrshire - Kilmarnock
FINLAY John Son - M 7 Scholar Ayrshire - Kilmarnock
FINLAY George Son - M 4 Lanarkshire - Glasgow
FINLAY Mary Dau - F 1 Lanarkshire - Glasgow
FINLAY Margaret Mother W F 66 Paupr Frmly Ct Mll Wrk Strtchr Renfrewshire - Pollokshaws
ALLAN Agnes Ma-Law W F 69 Lanarkshire - Glasgow

1861
Registration No: 644/7
Registration District: Milton
Civil Parish: Glasgow Maryhill
County: Lanarkshire
Roll: CSSCT1861_107 Page 13
ED: 44 Schedule: 70
Address: 15 Oakbank St
James Peebles Head 36 Iron Founder Dunfermline Fife
Mary Peebles Wife 36 Lochgilphead Ayrshire
Mary Peebles Dau 12 Scholar Glasgow
Page 14
Margaret Peebles Dau 10 Scholar Paisley
Isabella Peebles Dau 1 Glasgow
Jane Murray Boarder 20 Worsted Steam Loom Weaver Glasgow
Agnes McGregor Boarder 19 Worsted Steam Loom Weaver Kilmarnock Ayrshire


Death# 228/1889 McFARLANE AGNES JOHN AGNES SYDNEY * 5 Feb 1889

Can't find a Death notice in Trove.

The Sydney Morning Herald - Wed 6 Feb 1889 p.14
FUNERALS
THE FRIENDS of Mr. WILLIAM McFARLANE are respectfully invited to attend the Funeral of his beloved WIFE, Agnes, to move from his residence, 108 Fig-street, Ultimo, THIS (Wednesday) AFTERNOON, at 2 o'clock, for Presbyterian Cemetery, Necropolis.
WALTER STEWART, Undertaker.
 

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Three more children to add to those Ellie posted.

Birth 1875 McFARLANE WATT M 644/8 1170 Milton
Birth 1877 McFARLANE ISABELLA F 644/8 966 Milton
Birth 1880 McFARLANE ROBERT GRANT M 622/1 413 Maryhill

Which of the 10 children would you like traced?

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Hi Dave,

I have traced down to the best of my ability a few of them, but am manly concentrating on Robert Grant and his decendants. I have Robert Grant having 2 sons only with wife Caroline E Simmons (Robert John William and Victor Ranj), however there may be more. Both sons have now passed.

I am also looking for a Heather Jean Macfarlane (siblings William and June) - all 3 siblings were born in or around the 1930s and have passed I have been told by Heathers granddaughter. I am unsure who these come down through, although they are linked to the above family also.

Thank you for the information provided so far.
 

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This is all I have on Robert Grant. I have not tried to trace any children. My connection is younger sister Isabella.

1903 Not found ?

Marriage 2643/1905 MACFARLANE ROBERT G - SIMMONS CAROLINE E - WATERLOO * 31 Dec 1904

1913 NSW Electoral Roll - BOTANY - MASCOT POLLING-PLACE
McFARLANE Robert Grant, Wilson-street, ironmoulder
McFARLANE Caroline Ethel, Wilson-street, domestic duties

1930 NSW Electoral Roll - Cook - Mascot
McFARLANE Caroline Ethel, 331 Botany road, home duties
McFARLANE Robert Grant, 331 Botany road, moulder

1933 NSW Electoral Roll - Cook - Mascot
MacFARLANE Caroline Ethel, 331 Botany road, home duties
MacFARLANE Robert Grant, 331 Botany road, moulder

1936 NSW Electoral Roll - Barton - Kogarah North
MacFARLANE Caroline Ethel, 30 Moate ave., Brighton-le-Sands, h. d.
MacFARLANE Robert Grant, 30 Moate ave., Brighton-le-Sands, irnfndr.

1943 NSW Electoral Roll - Barton - Ramsgate
MacFARLANE Caroline Ethel, 47 Vista street, Sans Souci, home duties
MacFARLANE Robert Grant, 47 Vista street, Sans Souci, ironfounder

1949 & 1954 NSW Electoral Roll - Barton - Oatley
MacFARLANE Caroline Ethel, Townson street, Blakehurst, home duties
MacFARLANE Robert Grant, Townson street, Blakehurst, coy. director

The Sydney Morning Herald - Fri 31 Dec 1954 p.14
GOLDEN WEDDINGS
MACFARLANE - SIMMONS.-December 31, 1904, Knox Presbyterian Church, Mascot, Robert Grant to Caroline Ethel. Present address : 78 Townson Street, Blakehurst.

Death 4351/1956 MACFARLANE CAROLINE ETHEL - JOHN - MARY ANN - ROCKDALE * 31 Jan 1956

The Sydney Morning Herald - Wed 1 Feb 1956 p.30 *Images*
DEATHS
MACFARLANE, Caroline Ethel.-January 31, 1956, at a private hospital, late of 182 Grand Parade, Brighton-le-Sands, dearly beloved wife of Robert Grant Macfarlane, and loved mother of Robert, Victor and mother-in-law of Lavina and Beryl, and grandmother of Pamela, Martin, Carol, Kay and Richard, aged 69 years.

MACFARLANE, Caroline Ethel.-January 31, 1956, late of 132 Grand Parade, Brighton-le-Sands, beloved sister of Edie (Mrs Hart), Arthur, Alf, Bill, Vic, and Jack (deceased), aged 69 years.

FUNERALS
MACFARLANE.-The Relatives and Friends of Mr. Robert Grant Macfarlane, of Brighton-le-Sands, and Family, are invited to attend the Funeral of his dearly beloved Wife and their loved Mother, Mother-in-law, and Grandmother, CAROLINE ETHEL; to leave the Metropolitan Funeral Home, corner Bestic Street and Prince's Highway, Rockdale, This Day, after service commencing at 2.45 p.m., for Woronora Crematorium.
METROPOLITAN BURIAL AND CREMATION SOCIETY, Rockdale.

Surname: MACFARLANE Type: Ashes
First Name: CAROLINE Other Names: ETHEL
Date of Death: 31/01/1956 INTERRED
Location Section Position
OLD SECTION EVERGREEN FAMILY SHRUB GARDEN D 0007E

1958 & 1963 NSW Electoral Roll - Barton - Brighton-le-Sands
MacFARLANE Robert Grant, 182 Grand parade, director

Death 10029/1965 MACFARLANE ROBERT GRANT - WILLIAM - AGNES - ROCKDALE

The Sydney Morning Herald - Sat 27 Feb 1965 p.92
DEATHS
MACFARLANE, Robert Grant.-February 26, 1965, at his residence, 182 Grand Parade, Kogarah, husband of the late Caroline Ethel Macfarlane, loved father of Bert and Vic., fond father-in-law of Lavina and Beryl, and dear grandfather of Pam, Martin, Carol, Kay and Richard, aged 84 years.

The Sydney Morning Herald - Sat 27 Feb 1965 p.91
FUNERALS
MACFARLANE.-The Relatives and Friends of the late Mr ROBERT GRANT MACFARLANE, of 182 Grand Parade, Kogarah, are invited to attend his Funeral, to leave the Metropolitan Funeral Home, corner Princes Highway and Bestic Street, Rockdale, on Monday, after service commencing at 10.45 a.m., for the Woronora Crematorium.
METROPOLITAN BURIAL AND CREMATION SOCIETY, ROCKDALE.

Surname: MACFARLANE Type: Ashes
First Name: ROBERT Other Names: GRANT
Date of Death: 26/02/1965 INTERRED
Location Section Position
OLD SECTION EVERGREEN FAMILY SHRUB GARDEN D 0007E
 

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Thanks everybody - I found Heather Jean, she descends down through Allan..

Just a note, today I attended the Archives in Nsw and pulled the Probate of William McFarlane (3rd August 1839 to 12th May 1908).

In the will, he lists his wife as Sarah Anne (Im Assuming Cook?)

Children listed in the will are
Robert Grant,
Allan McGregor
Isabella
James McGregor
Watt

** his daughter Agnes has already passed away (she was married to someone of the name of Castles) and he leaves provisions to her 2 children William Castles and Agnes Castles (anybody have an idea of their fathers name).

On my tree, somehow I have other children - which according to his will may or may not exist (as he left no provisions for them, nor listed any children of theirs to inherit)
These are :
Daniel 1862
John 1863
William 1865
Edward 1869.

Unfortunately there was no Death Certificate in the probate, however I photographed every page in the probate. I may need to purchase the death certificate from Nsw Bdm (which atm is around a 8 week or more wait).

Any thoughts on the above?
 

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Edward died in Scotland and never made it to NSW.

Daniel, John and William I presume were considered well enough off not to be included.

'Castles' ? does not fit.

NSW Marriage 2810/1895 CARSWELL ARCHIBALD B - MACFARLANE AGNES - WATERLOO * 29 Apr 1895

NSW Births
CARSWELL WILLIAM MCF 11209/1896 ARCHIBALD B - AGNES - WATERLOO
CARSWELL AGNES A MCG 35678/1898 ARCHIBALD B - AGNES - WATERLOO

NSW Death 7375/1900 CARSWELL AGNES A - WILLIAM - AGNES - WATERLOO * 22 Jun 1900

The Sydney Morning Herald - Sat 23 Jun 1900 p.18
FUNERALS
CARSWELL.-The Friends of Mr. WILLIAM McFARLANE are kindly invited to attend the Funeral of his beloved DAUGHTER, Mrs. Agnes Carswell, which will leave her late residence, Tramway-street, Botany, on SUNDAY AFTERNOON, at 1 o'clock, for the Necropolis. J. MEDCALF, U'taker. Redfern.


NSW Marriage 1364/1889 McFARLANE WILLIAM - COOK SARAH A - SYDNEY * 24 Sep 1889

I've not traced Sarah so don't know if a spinster or widow.
 

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The Sydney Morning Herald - Fri 31 Dec 1954 p.14
GOLDEN WEDDINGS
MACFARLANE - SIMMONS.-December 31, 1904, Knox Presbyterian Church, Mascot, Robert Grant to Caroline Ethel. Present address : 78 Townson Street, Blakehurst.

For anybody else that may be researching this family tree:

I have received the Marriage Certificate for the above marriage. Knox Presbyterian Church was not in existance when they were married (as they had advertised in the above newspaper article).

Listed on the marriage certificate - 286/1905 are the details below.
Date and Place of Marriage: 31st December 1904 (Waterloo)
Names and Surnames of parties:
Robert Grant Macfarlane (Iron Moulder), Picton Street, North Botany
Caroline Ethel Simmons (Book Folder), Botany Road, South Waterloo
Married at: The residence of the Brides Mother, Botany Road, South Waterloo, according to the rites of the Presbyterian Church.

The consent of Mary Ann Simmons being the mother of the Bride, was giving in writing to the Marriage of Caroline Ethel Simmons with Robert Grant Macfarlane, the said Caroline Ethel Simmons being under the age of twenty-one years. Signed James Carson, Minister.

(R.G Macfarlane) -Bachelor
Possil Park Scotland
24 years
Father William Macfarlane
Mother Agnes McGregor (Dec)
Fathers occupation: Iron Dressor

(C.E Simmons) -Spinster
Surry Hills, Sydney
18 years
Father John Simmons (Dec)
Mother Mary Ann Johns
Fathers occupation: Engine Driver

The marriage was solemnised between us Robert Macfarlane, Caroline Ethel Simmons by me - James Carson, officiating minister. (All 3 signed with signatures).

Witnesses are: Arthur (E?) Simmons and Edith R Simmons, received and registered on the 2nd January, 1905.
 

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Thank you.

Confirms the following.

Marriage 78/1881 SIMMONS JOHN - JOHNS MARY ANN - SYDNEY * 1 Jan

NSW Birth 2584/1886 SIMMONS CAROLINE E - JOHN - MARY A - SYDNEY * 18 Aug
 
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Hi I finally tracked down Daniel, and his I believe his 'son' Keith who was actually Keith Barron, so am I am struggling on the last sibling John....

I am wanting to find the death of the last son John Macfarlane (McFarlane). On his Death Notice in the Sydney Morning Herald for Daniel, I see his name is mentioned so am assuming he would still be alive (1942). Unfortunately BDM is down at the moment.

John Macfarlane
Births 644/7 1527
30th November 1863 - Cedar Street, Glasgow (Cant make out house number - possibly 7).
William McFarlane - Iron Dresser
Agnes McFarlane - M.S McGregor
Marriage: December 31st, 1861 Glasgow, Milton
Agnes McFarlane left her Mark (Mother)
Birth registered on 15th December, 1863 at Glasgow..

Possible Campsie address in Sydney. Im hunting his Date of Death and Im having no luck..

Also I have finally tracked down multiple photos of my Grandfather Robert Grant, does anybody know where I may be able to find any of his parents Agnes (McGregor) and William McFarlane - I know its a long shot.
Thank you Joanne
 
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