William MARTIN & Sarah ROSS

[horse]

I can't find the birth of daughter Mary Ann.

Yeah, the others are found in some form or another..

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

I've checked all Unknown Ross born 1872 - 1875 and can't find a birth that fits for Sarah.

 

[horse]

Of course and Sarah.. Even the trees have a gap between Thomas and Mary Ann 1873-1877.

Mary Ann may have gone to Devon with Ruth, but not seeing Mary Ann in 1939 yet.

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

Don't even know if it's the right family in 1901 Irish census.

Dave

 

[horse]

Don't even know if it's the right family in 1901 Irish census.

If Mary Ann was 34y she must have been b. before 1870..

One tree says there are 3x early births with surname only...

See attachment for for one example.. male.

Geoff

 

[horse]

Don't even know if it's the right family in 1901 Irish census.

Ellen D'Arcy Russell Ross.. No mention ofr a Mary Ann or a Sarah?

Find A Grave

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Geoff.

Sarah Ellen Ross
BIRTH 1 July 1876 Ballybay, Monaghan, Ireland

I found one Ross birth in Ballibay but father was not Richard.

Dave

 

[horse]

Need to go, Dave.. Will take another look later.

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Geoff.

Found one more male born 4 Sep 1868.

Female Ross born 1873 Monaghan but father is Robert, a police officer - the only Unknown Ross in Monaghan 1866 - 1875.


Death results for Richard Ross from 1923 to 1923
No results found.

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

1911
Residents of a house 18 in Railway Street (Armagh North Urban, Armagh)
Surname Forename Age *** Relation to head Religion Birthplace Occupation Literacy Irish Language Marital Status Specified Illnesses Years Married Children Born Children Living
Ross Richard 78 Male Head of Family Church of Ireland Co Down Retired Railway Guard Read and write - Married - 45 9 9
Ross Ellen R 67 Female Wife Church of Ireland Co Louth - Read and write - Married - 45 9 9
Ross Mary Anne 34 Female Daughter Church of Ireland Co Armagh Governess Read and write - Single - - - -
Ross Thos Alex 27 Male Son The Community of ?Son Co Armagh Timber Clerk Read and write - Single - - - -
Ross Ruth Elianor 25 Female Daughter Church of Ireland Co Armagh Teacher Clerk Read and write - Single - - - -
Ross Hannah E 23 Female Daughter Church of Ireland Co Armagh - Read and write - Single - - - -
Ross Isa C 21 Female Daughter Church of Ireland Co Armagh - Read and write - Single - - - -

 

[DaveHam9]

??
Mary Ann may have gone to Devon with Ruth ...

Is that this one ?

Ross Ruth Elianor 25 Female Daughter Church of Ireland Co Armagh Teacher Clerk Read and write - Single - - - -

Are we sure it's the right family in Irish census?

Dave

 

[horse]

??
Mary Ann may have gone to Devon with Ruth ...

Is that this one ?

Ross Ruth Elianor 25 Female Daughter Church of Ireland Co Armagh Teacher Clerk Read and write - Single - - - -

Are we sure it's the right family in Irish census?

Yep, that's the one as I recall..

I'm not sure that it is the correct family in the census? Is it the 1901 or 1911 census?

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

Richard the railway guard is in 1901 and 1911 with family.

Depends if "Station master' in marriage is actually the railway guard. If so we have the family minus a birth for Sarah Ellen. If not then I can't find the Station master in any record.

Dave

 

[horse]

At the risk of still being a pain, I'm stumped for a piece of info that is correct to work from?

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

This is correct

1921 SANDS ALEXANDER A - MARTIN SARAH R 644/10 867 Blythswood

And this is all correct

John Aitken 1898–1948
Sarah Emily Ross Martin 1902–1996
Marriage: 18 Nov 1940 Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland

Marriage 1940 AITKEN JOHN - SANDS SARAH ROSS 644/16 692 Tradeston

Seth Wilson 1888–1965
Sarah Emily Ross Martin 1902–1996
Marriage: 13 Sep 1957 Roosevelt, Duchesne, Utah, USA

SS Death Index:
Sarah A. Wilson
Social Security Number: 528-40-8411
Birth Date: 26 Sep 1902
Issue Year: Before 1951
Issue State: Utah
Last Residence: 84720, Cedar City, Iron, Utah, USA
Death Date: May 1996


Dave

 

[horse]

Thanks, Dave..

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

A marriage in Ireland for a William Martin to a Sarah Ross 1880 - 1905 - only the one in post #2.

 

[horse]

A marriage in Ireland for a William Martin to a Sarah Ross 1880 - 1905 - only the one in post #2.

Occ = gardener in 1921, labourer in 1895, not too far adrift possibly?

mmn = Ross

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

If it is not the marriage in post #2 then we are really stuck.

Not sure why I can't find Richard's death in 1923.

Also, can't find Ellen's death in 1922.

100 years ?? No, there are deaths in 1921.


Hannah died 21 Nov 1911 and brother Thomas Alexr. was the informant.

 

[horse]

A number of trees are saying Sarah [1902] mother = McGinn.

Her 1921 marriage says her parents are William Martin and Sarah Ellen Martin, nee Ross [dec]

One tree has this..

"Birth 26 Sep 1902 Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland
birth name = Hazel McGinn. Sarah Martin = adoptive name"

Geoff