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William & Mary Ann MURRAY

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Birth 26518/1889 MURRAY JANET E - WILLIAM MARY A - MOLONG * 9 Nov 1889

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Possible marriage of William Murray and Mary Ann Connor in 1878 in Orange, NSW
Possible death of William Murray 24 Aug 1923 aged 89
Possible death of Mary Ann Murray (Buried with him) 14 Aug 1935 aged 75
William's death shows his parents as Sage and Jane Murray
There is a birth for William in Scotland -
Name: William Murray
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: Mar 183
4Baptism Place: Halkirk,Caithness,Scotland
Father: Sage Murray
Mother: Jane Bruce

It would make sense that William's father was Sage as William and Mary Ann had a son called Robert Sage Murray
I think William arrived in Australia with his parents in 1839 so no record of them on any Scottish census records.
 

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Janet Elzie Murray marriage Raymond L Paddison Molong – 1913 – she died 1977 NSW – parents William & Mary

Ryerson – her death notice 26 June 1977 age 87 late of Summer Hill SMH 27 June 1977



Raymond Lancelot Paddison death notice 11 March 1966 age 76 late of Tuggerawong SMH 14 March 1966 and Orbit Wyong Advocate 30 March 1966



Dubbo Despatch & Wellington Independent – Fri 7 Sept 1923 – Orbit William Murray

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/...Term=william murray&searchLimits=l-decade=192|||l-year=1923



Wellington Times – Thu 22 Aug 1935 – Orbit for Mary Ann Murray

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/142901949?searchTerm=mary ann murray&searchLimits=
 

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Paddison Raymond Lancelot 11/03/1966 CHURCH OF ENGLAND, L7, Grave 0043

1968 NSW Electoral Roll - Bradfield - Turramurra South
PADDISON Janet Elzie, 1701 Pacific Highway, Wahroonga, home duties

I looked last week while at the local library and didn't find Janet in 1972 or 1977.

The Sydney Morning Herald - Mon 27 Jun 1977 p.10
DEATHS
PADDISON, Janet Elzie.-June 26, 1977, at hospital, of Herbert Street, Summer Hill, widow of Raymond Lancelot, loved mother and mother-in-law of ...

Can't find Janet at Macquarie Park.

Not Rookwood either ?
 
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1913 Orange
MURRAY William & Mary Ann

District of Orange: Amaroo, Barragun, Belpage, Beneree, Boomey, Borenore, Bowan Park, Burdett, Byng, Cadia, Canoblas, Cargo, Cave Creek, Cheeseman’s Creek, Clergate, Coffee Hills, Cudal, Cumnock, East Orange, Forest Reefs, Garra, Gumble, Lewis Ponds, Lucknow, Manildra, March, Molong, Mullion Creek, Native Dog Creek, Ophir, Orange, Pinecliff, Red Hill, Rosedale Mine, Shadforth, Spring Hill, Springside, Spring Terrace, Tallwood, Toogong and Waldegrave


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Wellington Times - Thu 22 Aug 1935 p.6
OBITUARY
MARY ANN MURRAY
The death occurred at her residence in Summer Street, Orange, of Mrs. Mary Ann Murray, relict of the late William Murray, at the age of 75 years. The late Mrs. Murray, who was born at Ploughman Creek, Orange, was a member of the McCutcheon family, ...

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No birth in NSW index 1858 - 1862 for a Mary McCutcheon.

Death reg has parents as James & Jane. Born near Orange. This is not near orange.

Birth MCCUTCHEON (FEMALE) 12819/1860 JAMES W - JANE - TUMUT

Marriage 5846/1888 BARTER JOSEPH - MCCUTCHEON ELIZABETH A - MOLONG

Birth MCCUTCHEON ELIZABETH 15888/1869 WILLIAM JANE - ORANGE

Elizabeth is a half-sister.
 
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Marriage 2579/1863 MCCUTCHEON WILLIAM - CONNOR JANE - ORANGE

Elizabeth & Mary have the same mother. No birth for a Mary Connor with mother = Jane.

Birth MCCUTCHEON FEMALE 12370/1864 WILLIAM JANE - ORANGE

Ok, I'm lost. Why does Mary Ann marry as Connor ?
 
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Ship - Lady McNaughton 28/01/1839

MURRAY Sage 45 Shepherd
Wife 40
Sutherlandshire Church of Scotland Engaged by Mr J Rane ? Bathurst £80 one year with rations
2 boys aged above 14, 1 girl aged above 14, 1 girl aged 7 - 14, 1 boy aged under 7
 

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Marriage 2579/1863 MCCUTCHEON WILLIAM - CONNOR JANE - ORANGE

Elizabeth & Mary have the same mother. No birth for a Mary Connor with mother = Jane.

Birth MCCUTCHEON FEMALE 12370/1864 WILLIAM JANE - ORANGE

Ok, I'm lost. Why does Mary Ann marry as Connor ?
Assuming I have the correct Mary Ann, she would have been b. c1860 year before her father d. so she would be a Connor [I think] o_O

She was only about 16y when married..

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Dave,

confusing….

Tree has Jane as Jane Sophia Jeffereys b 1842 Richmond to William Jeffery & Mary Ann Martin

married 1st James Connor 1856 Bathurst – he died 11 June 1861

married 2nd William McCutcheon 1863 Orange – he died Jan 1879 Orange buried with Jane



then Jane died June 1879 Orange – buried C of E Old Area Section K Row 1 grave 1 Orange Gen Cemetery – on BDM has her as Jane T McCutcheon – 1879 – William J and Mary – Orange…



Mary Ann Connor b 1860 Orange to above Jane Sophia and James Connor (1st marriage of Mum), married 31 Jan 1876 “Heifer Station” nr Orange to William Murray & died 1935 Orange age 75 – parents James & Jane – reg no: 16399

Elizabeth McCutcheon b 1869 Orange
 
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Not necessarily that confusing, offspring born up to 1863 would have a surname, Connor and from *1863 would be McCutcheon.

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EDIT: * Changed
 

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Mary Ann Martin b Aug 1810 Gondhurst Kent – married William Jeffery 1 Sept 1828 Lamberhurst Kent b April 1806 Brenchley Kent – he died 29 July 1898 Orange – wife Mary died 29 April 1876 Orange



NSW Assisted Passengers

Mary Anne Jeffrey age 28 arrived 27 Nov 1838 “Lady Nugent” from Jondhurst Kent with children Harriet age 9 and Mary Ann age 7 – parents William Martin and Elizabeth Malliard
 

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Thanks Geoff.

If there is no birth reg and Mary was raised as a McCutcheon as per her obit why marry as Connor?

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Not sure, Dave.. I guess only she will know that. But if she was b. before 1863 [looks like she was, even though not recorded] then she is a Connor, she must have known that to marry in that name!

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Ok, I agree Geoff she was born around 1860 therefore Connor.

The details given to the journalist who wrote the obit was a condensed version with Mary as a McCutcheon.

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