William & Mary HARRIS

[DaveHam9]

Marriages Mar 1848 Redruth 9 249
HARRIS William & GRIBBLE Mary

26 Mar 1848 - Submitted IGI * Married on her birthday ?


Arrived 1848 or 1849 ??

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Not this
HARRIS William, wife, child (Wm?) arrived 1848-11-10 on Bussorah Merchant from London v Plymouth [Source:4,6,7,8,30] ?

Bound for South Australia 1836-1851 CD
BUSSORAH MERCHANT from London to Plymouth
1848 November 10 - Adelaide
HARRIS Wm. (Sawyer and ag. labourer), wife (Jane - sempstress?) and child.

Thanks,

Dave

 

[horse]

No luck with the arrival, but 2x offspring confirmed on SA Pioneers 1849 & 1851..

Mary's family look to have arrived Australia 1848 per 'Blonde' but they don't appear to be with them.. They arrived Oct so timescale OK, given the March marriage..

Geoff

 

[horse]

Even though she was married, she would only be 17y or so in 1848, would that affect how she would travel

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Geoff.

2x offspring confirmed on SA Pioneers 1849 & 1851. ??

Dave

 

[horse]

Thanks Geoff.

2x offspring confirmed on SA Pioneers 1849 & 1851. ??

On the South Australian Pioneer Families, Dave..

HERE

Geoff

EDIT:
HARRIS William, Mary GRIBBLE, parents of child born 1849-07-04 named William at (TMu)

HARRIS William, Mary GRIBBLE, parents of child born 1851-05-02 named Mary Jane at (TMu)

 

[DaveHam9]

??
HARRIS, wife arrived 1848-10-01 on John Bartlett from London 48-06-15 * Another site just has Mr & Mrs Harris.

Others with 3 and 5 and 10 children ruled out as is the one arriving too late.

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

The Blonde left Plymouth 25/26 June 1848.

??
HARRIS, EDWIN - GRIBBLE
GRO Reference: 1848 M Quarter in REDRUTH UNION Volume 09 Page 291

 

[horse]

The Blonde left Plymouth 25/26 June 1848.

??
HARRIS, EDWIN - GRIBBLE
GRO Reference: 1848 M Quarter in REDRUTH UNION Volume 09 Page 291

Yeah, would make more sense for them to be on the 'Blonde'

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

But the Blonde went to Victoria.

BUSSORAH MERCHANT from London to Plymouth
1848 November 10 - Adelaide
HARRIS Wm. (Sawyer and ag. labourer), wife (Jane - sempstress?) and child.

Then there should be births with mother = Jane.

1852 HARRIS Henry William HARRIS Jane TRIPLETT Adelaide 3/318
1853 HARRIS John Henry William HARRIS Jane TRIPLETT Adelaide 4/253

Can't see a birth on GRO with mmn Triplett

EDIT: Forget that. That was one of three sites that list the arrival of a William Harris - it looks to be an error listing wife as Jane.

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

Any Harris - Gribble match??

Marriages Dec 1847
EVA Elizabeth Redruth 9 309
GRIBBLE Lavinia Redruth 9 309
Harris John Redruth 9 309
MICHELL James Redruth 9 309
PASCOE Elizabeth Redruth 9 309
Pendray Johnson Redruth 9 309
Rawlings Edward Redruth 9 309
SEMS Mary Anne Redruth 9 309


Marriages Dec 1839
FREY Richard Redruth 9 295
GRIBBLE Frances Redruth 9 295
HARRIS Thomas Redruth 9 295
HOCKING Elizabeth Redruth 9 295
MORRISH Edward Redruth 9 295
RICHARDS Mary Ann Redruth 9 295
SECOMBE Elizabeth Redruth 9 295
VINCENT Thomas Redruth 9 295

Cornwall OPC and FS no help.

 

[horse]

But the Blonde went to Victoria.

I meant in terms of travelling with family, then travel from Vic to SA.. Though probably didn't happen like that..

Geoff

 

[horse]

The Blonde left Plymouth 25/26 June 1848.

??
HARRIS, EDWIN - GRIBBLE
GRO Reference: 1848 M Quarter in REDRUTH UNION Volume 09 Page 291

Not sure who that is Dave

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

I'm not sure who Edwin is either.

Very few Harris - Gribble marriages in Redruth 1837 - 1848.

Trying to rule out
BUSSORAH MERCHANT from London to Plymouth
1848 November 10 - Adelaide
HARRIS Wm. (Sawyer and ag. labourer), wife (Jane - sempstress?) and child.

Also trying to prove Edwin didn't end up in Australia around 1848.

 

[horse]

Trying to rule out
BUSSORAH MERCHANT from London to Plymouth
1848 November 10 - Adelaide
HARRIS Wm. (Sawyer and ag. labourer), wife (Jane - sempstress?) and child.

Not sure you can.. This has the passenger list, "William Harris & wife & child" and if you scroll down you get this "William Harris & family ; Sawyer & Agricultural Labourer" Then to the right of that there is a Jane Harris who could be separate "Jane Harris ; seamstress" HERE

So that could still be your William if the child is Edwin and the wife = Mary..

Geoff

 

[horse]

Also trying to prove Edwin didn't end up in Australia around 1848.

This would need to be looked into...

SA Pioneers:
"HARRIS Edwin arrived 1849-04-02 on Calphurnia from London 1848-12-10"

Geoff

 

[horse]

Need to go now, Dave.. will look later.

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

Ok, thanks Geoff.

A bit of a puzzle.

William Harris, wife and child possibly William

7x William Harris born Redruth who could be that child and not one mmn Gribble.

No death in Vic. for Edwin with parents that match. Several deaths in SA and Vic. with no parents.

Several other births in Cornwall before 1848 and deaths in Redruth for an Edwin Harris after 1848.


1855 looks to be the first birth reg in Vic.

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

Is there more than one Harris - Gribble family with children born in Redruth around 1848?

At least two.

HARRIS, EMELY - GRIBBLE
GRO Reference: 1843 M Quarter in REDRUTH UNION Volume 09 Page 295

HARRIS, HENRY JAMES - GRIBBLE
GRO Reference: 1844 S Quarter in REDRUTH UNION Volume 09 Page 278

HARRIS, JAMES - GRIBBLE
GRO Reference: 1847 S Quarter in REDRUTH UNION Volume 09 Page 215

HARRIS, ELIZA JANE - GRIBBLE
GRO Reference: 1849 D Quarter in REDRUTH UNION Volume 09 Page 283

 

[DaveHam9]

1851
Piece: HO107/1915 Place: Redruth -Cornwall ED: 1a
Civil Parish: Redruth Ecclesiastical Parish: -
Folio: 13 Page: 19 Schedule: 70
Address: Bullers Row
Surname First name(s) Rel Status *** Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
HARRIS James Head M M 53 Copper Miner Cornwall - Redruth
HARRIS Elizabeth Wife M F 44 - Cornwall - Redruth
HARRIS Louisa Dau F 17 Copper Miner Cornwall - Redruth
HARRIS Richard Son M 15 Copper Miner Cornwall - Redruth
HARRIS Phillip Son - M 13 - Cornwall - Redruth
HARRIS Emily Dau - F 9 Scholar Cornwall - Redruth
HARRIS Henry Son - M 7 Scholar Cornwall - Redruth
HARRIS Edwin Son - M 3 Scholar Cornwall - Redruth


Edwin is ruled out as the 'child' arriving 1848.

 

[DaveHam9]

The Melbourne Daily News and Port Phillip Patriot (Vic.) - Mon 16 Oct 1848 p.2
Shipping Intelligence.
ARRIVED.
October 15.-Blonde, barque, from 672 tons, Todd, captain, from Plymouth the 25th June, Dr. Miller, Surgeon Superintendent, and 241 emigrants, nearly all Scotch. Agents W. & H. Barnes and Co.

The Melbourne Daily News and Port Phillip Patriot (Vic.) - Wed 18 Oct 1848 p.2
Shipping Intelligence.
Emigrants.-The emigrants per the 'Blonde' only open for engagement yesterday, are procuring employment with great rapidity, about the half of them are already engaged, and it is expected that the remainder will be in the same position to-day. The wages are for single men, £20 to £28. Single females £18 to £22, and married couples, £30 to £35.