William PENFOLD & Elizabeth SMITH

[DaveHam9]

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
Name: William Penfold
Spouse Name: Elizabeth Smith
Record Type: Banns
Event Date: 23 Apr 1827
Parish: St Botolph Aldgate
County: London
Borough: City of London

Pallot's Marriage Index for England: 1780 - 1837
Name: Elizth Smith
Spouse: Wm Penfold
Marriage Date: 1827
Parish: St Botolph Without Aldgate


Looking for Elizabeth's and William's father's name and occupation.

Thanks,

Dave

 

[horse]

A tree has William's parents as:

William F Penfold and Sarah Marchant m. 1795 London. Image has the witnesses as John Marchant and possibly W Finch.

No occ.s unfortunately..

Geoff

Edit: not convincing

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Geoff.

I'd go with this one but census show William born abt 1799.

William Penfold
Spouse: Sarah Gilbert
Record Type: Marriage by Licence
Event Date: 8 Aug 1801
Parish: Westminster St Martin in the Fields
Borough: Westminster
Register Type: Bishop's Transcript


This is the right family for my tree but can't tell which Sarah it is unless we can find pob for them.

1841
HO107 Piece 1068 Book/Folio 5/10 Page 15
Civil Parish: Tooting Graveney
County: Surrey
Registration District: Wandsworth & Clapham
Address: Angel Court
PENFOLD, William M 75 Surrey
PENFOLD, Sarah F 69 Surrey
PENFOLD, Mary F 30 Surrey
STONE, Sarah F 21 Surrey



There is nothing in census or bap of children or death notice or burial or probate that has a middle for for William born abt 1799.

 

[DaveHam9]

We know it is Sarah. So Gilbert or Marchant ??

The Sydney Morning Herald - Wednesday 18 December 1861 p.1
DEATHS
On the 28th September, at her residence, Lower Tooting, Surrey, England, Mrs. Sarah Penfold, in her 91st year. Grandmother of Mr. E. T. Penfold, George street.

 

[DaveHam9]

Any chance one of these might have a clue?

James Penfold
birth: 30 Jul 1801
christening: 30 Aug 1801 TOOTING GRAVENEY,SURREY,ENGLAND
William Penfold & Sarah

Margaret Penfold
birth: 3 May 1804
christening: 3 Jun 1804 TOOTING GRAVENEY,SURREY,ENGLAND
William Penfold & Sarah

Mary Ann Penfold
birth: 10 Sep 1806
christening: 5 Oct 1806 TOOTING GRAVENEY,SURREY,ENGLAND
Wm. Penfold & Sarah

Hester Penfold
birth: 29 Jul 1811
christening: 18 Aug 1811 TOOTING GRAVENEY,SURREY,ENGLAND
death: 3 Jul 1816
William Penfold & Sarah

Hannah Penfold
christening: 14 May 1815 TOOTING GRAVENEY,SURREY,ENGLAND
William Penfold & Sarah

 

[DaveHam9]

Since there are 2x William & Sarah can we find 2 sets of children and 2x in 1841?


2x or an error with the parish ??

Thomas Penfold
christening: 11 March 1831 SAINT JOHN THE BAPTIST, CROYDON, SURREY

Thomas Penfold
christening: 11 March 1831 St. James', Croydon, Surrey, England


Amelia Penfold
christening: 20 March 1818 SAINT STEPHAN COLEMAN STREET, LONDON, LONDON

William Penfold
christening: 14 August 1822 ST MARY-ST MARYLEBONE ROAD,ST MARYLEBONE, LONDON

Sarah Penfold
christening: 14 September 1823 SAINT ANNE SOHO, WESTMINSTER, LONDON

Mary Penfold
christening: 16 December 1826 SAINT JOHN THE BAPTIST, CROYDON,SURREY

George Penfold
christening: 20 August 1837 St. James', Croydon, Surrey, England

 

[horse]

We know it is Sarah. So Gilbert or Marchant ??

This looks like her in 1851

Civil Parish: Tooting Graveney
County: Surrey
RD: Wandsworth
Sub-RD: Putney
ED: 1a; HO107; Piece: 1579; Folio: 210; Page: 22

Sarah Penfold 79 [b. Streatham, Surrey. Laundress]
[Address = Angel Court, which matches the 1841 cencus]

1861 is interesting she has a niece with her..

Civil Parish: Tooting Graveney
County/Island: Surrey
RD: Wandsworth
Sub-RD: Streatham
ED: 12; RG 9; Piece: 376; Folio: 74; Page: 16

Sarah Penfold 89 [b. Matham, Surrey. Laundress] Could be Streatham on image.
Ann Dyer 62 Mar. Niece [b. Tooting. Laundress]

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Geoff.

Streatham and Mitcham and Morden are not far apart and Coulsdon is a bit further south.

I think Ann Dyer holds the key but ... we should check this Sarah out more too:

1851
HO107 Piece 1579 Folio 240 Page 16
Civil Parish: Tooting Graveney
Registration District: Wandsworth
Sub-RD: Putney
Address:
William Penfold Head 52 Master tailor employing ----- Tooting
Elizabeth Wife 53 Chertsey
Sarah Adinston lodger 77


Any status ? Widow or what?

Dave

 

[horse]

I think Ann Dyer holds the key but ... we should check this Sarah out more too:

Sarah Adinston lodger 77

Any status ? Widow or what?

Dave

b. Buastead, Essex. Probably Burstead.
Lodger.
Looks to be unm.

The image is not good.

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Geoff.

I looked yesterday for a birth/baptism assuming it was her maiden name and didn't find one.

Dave

 

[horse]

Thanks Geoff.

I looked yesterday for a birth/baptism assuming it was her maiden name and didn't find one.

Dave

Would a copy of the image help, it's not my forte, reading images?

 

[DaveHam9]

Ok, email thanks Geoff.

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Geoff.

A 'U' for Unmarried.

The name can't be Adinston.

Addlinston ? Not easy to tell but there are 9 or 10 letters not 8.

 

[horse]

Addlinston ? Not easy to tell but there are 9 or 10 letters not 8.

Oh! That's interesting... I'll have a look..

 

[horse]

Oh! That's interesting... I'll have a look..

Dear me, it has 2 D's anyway, I'd overlooked that..

 

[horse]

Any chance one of these might have a clue?

James Penfold
birth: 30 Jul 1801
christening: 30 Aug 1801 TOOTING GRAVENEY,SURREY,ENGLAND
William Penfold & Sarah

Margaret Penfold
birth: 3 May 1804
christening: 3 Jun 1804 TOOTING GRAVENEY,SURREY,ENGLAND
William Penfold & Sarah

Mary Ann Penfold
birth: 10 Sep 1806
christening: 5 Oct 1806 TOOTING GRAVENEY,SURREY,ENGLAND
Wm. Penfold & Sarah

Hester Penfold
birth: 29 Jul 1811
christening: 18 Aug 1811 TOOTING GRAVENEY,SURREY,ENGLAND
death: 3 Jul 1816
William Penfold & Sarah

Hannah Penfold
christening: 14 May 1815 TOOTING GRAVENEY,SURREY,ENGLAND
William Penfold & Sarah

Rechecked those and nothing about Sarah's maiden name

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Geoff.

So no other William (F.) and Sarah and family in 1841?

Any death/burial for a William F. old enough to fit marriage to Marchant?

 

[horse]

Nothing leaping out

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Geoff.