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William SAWYER & Ann ?

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Thanks gibbo.

No birth in the index for Henry.

Back to my question. Is Ann Puckeridge the mother of Mary Jane born 1850?

Perhaps some of the baptism images on Friday will help.
 
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This is the connection to my tree.

NSW Bap V18501977 38A/1850 SAWYER MARY J - WILLIAM - ANNE

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Baptisms solemnized in the Parish of Yass in the County of Murray in the Year 1852
No. 915 When Baptised: 1852 4th or 14th ?? January When Born: 1850 May 25 Mary Jane - William & Ann Sawyer Abode: Gundagai Quality or Profession: Squatter By whom the Ceremony was performed: W G Sydney [William Grant Broughton D.D. Bishop of Sydney]
Born 1850 and baptised 1852. Were there any other baptisms on that day for other kids as well. Just sometimes you see them baptising several kids on the same day.
 

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I'm trying to find when William the ex 'Buffs' soldier arrived.

Service in Australia - Divided into four detachments the Buffs were separated. First detachment left Deptford for Sydney in 1821. Second detachment left Deptford for Hobart 1822. The third detachment (The Buffs Head Quarters) left Deptford for Sydney 1823, arriving the same year. The fourth detachment arrived in Sydney in 1824 and were stationed at Port Dalrymple, Parramatta, Liverpool, Newcastle, Port Macquarie, Botany Bay and Bathurst . The Regiment reunited and was transferred to Calcutta in 1827.

Went from 3rd to 17th to 57th and back to 17th.
Regiment Re-Joined : 17th Regiment

17th Service in Australia - Arrived during the latter part of 1830 through to 1831 seeing service in Tasmania , Parramatta & Sydney. The Regiment was despatched to Afghanistan and left Sydney in March of 1836.

Date Discharged Army : 31 December 1834 ??
Private # 813 SAWYER William Transferred to 17th Regt 1st January 1832. Discharged Sydney 30th September 1835 ??

Was the move to Bathurst and back to Campbelltown due to movement of the regiment?

Some of the baptisms are before that date.
 
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Some might have that's why I'll look for images on Friday.

One tree has the William Henry who married Ann Puckeridge as born NSW 1800 and no mention of him being a soldier. We must have 2x William and Ann but only one marriage in index and hard to sort children.
 

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1903-04 NSW Electoral Roll - COOTAMUNDRA - TEMORA
TUMBAN William Henry, Polaris street, Temora, auctioneer
TUBMAN Mary Jane, Temora, domestic duties
TUBMAN Louisa Anne, Temora, dressmaker

Mary Jane, husband and daughter.
 

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This is the connection to my tree.

NSW Bap V18501977 38A/1850 SAWYER MARY J - WILLIAM - ANNE

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Baptisms solemnized in the Parish of Yass in the County of Murray in the Year 1852
No. 915 When Baptised: 1852 4th or 14th ?? January When Born: 1850 May 25 Mary Jane - William & Ann Sawyer Abode: Gundagai Quality or Profession: Squatter By whom the Ceremony was performed: W G Sydney [William Grant Broughton D.D. Bishop of Sydney]
Can you look up her marriage or would need to buy a cert to see if it has mother's maiden name
 

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Marriage 2318/1872 TULMAN WILLIAM HENRY - SAWYER MARY J - GUNDAGAI * 28 Aug 1872

An error for Tubman.

Wagga Wagga Express and Murrumbidgee District Advertiser (NSW) - Wed 4 Sep 1872 p.2
MARRIED,
On the 28th August, at Bethungra, by the Rev. J. N. Manning, WILLIAM HENRY eldest son of Henry Tubman, Esq., Sydney to MARY JANE youngest daughter of William Sawyer, Esq., Mount Adrah.

That may be on film at the State Library in the city. I was there this morning doing SMH death and funeral notice look ups.

Mount Adrah - between Tarcutta and Gundagai.

Bethungra - between Junee and Cootamundra.
 
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Thanks gibbo.

Sarah A is the first in the index in 1826 baptised in Sydney. On my list to look up on Friday.


That marriage to Nixon looks Presbyterian.
 

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NSW Marriage 599/1847 V1847599 32C MORTON WILLIAM J - SAWYER SARAH A - MI= CofE Gundaroo; Gunning; Yass

NSW Marriage 1393/1856 PALMER DAVID - MORTON SARAH ANN - GOULBURN
 

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Wagga Wagga Express and Murrumbidgee District Advertiser (NSW) - Wed 4 Sep 1872 p.2
MARRIED,
On the 28th August, at Bethungra, by the Rev. J. N. Manning, WILLIAM HENRY eldest son of Henry Tubman, Esq., Sydney to MARY JANE youngest daughter of William Sawyer, Esq., Mount Adrah.
MARRIED.
ON the 19th instant, at Wagga Wagga, by the Rev. Robert Falconer, Robert Nixon, to Sarah Ann Palmer, eldest daughter of the late William Sawyer, of Mount Adrah.
The Wagga Wagga Express.
SATURDAY, AUGUST 22, 1874.
1872 just says daughter of William Sawyer but 1874 says Late William Sawyer. Going by that William died between 1872 and 1874.
 

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Sep or Oct 1873.

So we have youngest and eldest daughters, and others in between.

So the tree has to be wrong with William's birth in 1800 in NSW. And has to be wrong with his death in Balmain in 1887.

No overlap with the births so do we have one family and the movement to and from Bathurst was due to movements of the regiment?
 

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Back to Ann. The marriage is 1830.

Son Henry age 41 in 1864 so born abt 1823 and the first in the index is Sarah A in 1826.

NSW Marriages
751/1854 V1854751 81 SAWYER HENRY - MURRAY FANNY - JG= Presbyterian Alexandria; Paddington
2515/1854 V18542515 73C SAWYER HENRY - MURRAY OR COHEN FANNY OR FRANCES - JB= Presbyterian Sydney, St Andrew's Scots Church
 
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https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/28653200?searchTerm="william%20henry%20sawyer"

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/36855916?searchTerm="william%20henry%20sawyer"

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/32187300?searchTerm="william%20henry%20sawyer"

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/226457228?searchTerm="william%20henry%20sawyer"

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/12867030?searchTerm="william%20henry%20sawyer"

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/12867105?searchTerm="william%20henry%20sawyer"

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/12867464?searchTerm="william%20henry%20sawyer"

A shoe maker in Kent St.

Something is not right with the dates of the marriage.

1844
WHEREAS, upon the Petition to the Honor
able the Judges of our Supreme Court of
New South Wales, of Samuel Tree, of Sydney,
market gardener, against William Henry Sawyer,
late of Sydney, shoemaker, now absent from the
Colony, it appeared to us, that the said William
Henry Sawyer is justly and truly indebted to him

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/12901142?searchTerm="william%20henry%20sawyer"

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/60558213?searchTerm="william%20henry%20sawyer"
 
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https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/221671809?searchTerm="william%20henry%20sawyer"

The most interesting.

In the estate, goods, chattels, credits, and effects of Ann
Sawyer, late of 69, Botany Road, Waterloo, in the Colony
effects of Ann Sawyer, the abovenamed deceased, who died
on the 9th day of April, a.d. 1882, may be granted to William
Henry Sawyer, the husband of the said deceased.

Shoe maker turned ship owner.

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/13627789?searchTerm="william%20henry%20sawyer"

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/13628294?searchTerm="william%20henry%20sawyer"

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/224313838?searchTerm="william%20henry%20sawyer"


Robert and Alice G have mother on their death reg as Catherine. ??
 
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Searching Trove for William without Henry.

Mounted Policeman would fit.

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/2191470?searchTerm=fulltext:"william%20sawyer"~0

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/118313547?searchTerm=fulltext:"william%20sawyer"~0

DIED.
At Tarcutta, on the 18th January, Ann Sawyer,
the wife of Mr. William Sawyer, of Tarcutta
and Mount Adrah, aged 54 years.

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/118308986?searchTerm=fulltext:"william%20sawyer"~0

DIED,
At Tarcutta, on the 19th ult., Annie, the be-
loved wife of Mr. William Sawyer, leaving a
large family to deplore the loss of an affec-
tionate parent.

I can't find the death reg.
 
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