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William SMITH

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Hello,

I have found one more convict. :)

Pity it's a William SMITH. :biggrin:

Possibly born 1784 Warwickshire.

1809 Received On Board the Prison Hulk 'Captivity' at Portsmouth

1810 Arrived Sydney per 'Indian' ?

Married 1812 Parramatta to Isabella JONES or HOPE or BROWN ??

Isabella HOPE b. 1790 Newcastle Upon Tyne, Northumberland ?

V1808835 3A/1808 JONES JOHN - BROWN ISABELLA CB

V18121398 3A/1812 SMITH WILLIAM - JONES ISABELLA CB
 

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Of course - 2x William on the same vessel:

Title: William Smith, one of 200 convicts transported on the Indian, July 1810.
Details: Sentence details: Convicted at Warwick Assizes for a term of life on 29 July 1809.
Vessel: Indian.
Date of Departure: July 1810.
Place of Arrival: New South Wales.
Source: Australian Joint Copying Project. Microfilm Roll 87, Class and Piece Number HO11/2, Page Number 20

Title: William Smith, one of 200 convicts transported on the Indian, July 1810.
Details: Sentence details: Convicted at London Gaol Delivery for a term of life on 28 June 1809.
Vessel: Indian.
Date of Departure: July 1810.
Place of Arrival: New South Wales.
Source: Australian Joint Copying Project. Microfilm Roll 87, Class and Piece Number HO11/2, Page Number 16


Only a total of 611 convicts named William SMITH :2fun:
 

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SMITH William - Indian 1810 - CP 31 Jan 1818 [4/4430] 774 - 116

Death reg is not much help:

5274/1865 SMITH WILLIAM AGE 81 YEARS DIED PARRAMATTA PARRAMATTA

5203/1864 SMITH ISABELLA AGE 74 YEARS DIED PENNANT HILLS PARRAMATTA

I would say no one has the birth/baptism records and calculation has been made using age at death.

Don't know if maiden name is HOPE or BROWN. If HOPE then Isabella married 3 times.

Also don't know if Isabella came free or not or when.

Isabella (Brown) Hope was born in Northumberland in 1790 was apparently related to a Lord Hope which one ? she arrived in Australia onboard "Duke of Portland" in 1807 under the name of Brown,
she married in 1808 to a John Jones who died shortly afterwards. Isabella then married
William Smith in Parramatta NSW in 1812.
If any one has information regarding Isabella and her early days I would be very greatful.
 
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Ok, we can do it starting with the most recent.

Along the way we will revisit Thomas WILLIAMS and Charlotte KENTWELL. :)

This marriage is the connection to my tree:

277/1933 LOUGHLIN EDWARD A - POWELL ALMA E S - SYDNEY

E= Elizabeth S= Sands

POWELL family from Castleconnell, Co Limerick.
 

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Marriage for Edward's father:

10771/1910 LOUGHLIN JOHN B - SMITH LOTTIE F - SYDNEY

Deaths
16527/1951 LOUGHLIN JOHN BEDE - WILLIAM - SARAH - BURWOOD
28501/1966 LOUGHLIN LOTTIE FINNIE - JORDAN - CAROLINE - BURWOOD

LOUGHLIN John Bede Death notice 01SEP1951 Death 75 late of Marrickville SMH 03SEP1951

LOUGHLIN Lottie Finnie Death notice 14AUG1966 Death 85 late of Marrickville SMH 15AUG1966
 

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Thanks, Dave... I think I have a line now...
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I may have made an error along the way because I'm now lost :rolleyes: connecting Jordan to Reuben SMITH and on to William 1810.

Ok Jordan Stuart SMITH > Robert SMITH > William SMITH the convict 1810

Robert's brother Reuben married Charlotte WILLIAMS daughter of Thomas WILLIAMS convict and Charlotte KENTWELL daughter of 2 convicts we looked at previously.
 
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Father: Thomas Williams b. 1798, d. 1879
Mother: Charlotte Kentwell b. 1801, d. 1881
Birth: Charlotte Williams was born in 1830 at Castle Hill, NSW
She was the daughter of Thomas Williams and Charlotte Kentwell.
Marriage: Charlotte Williams married Reuben Smith, son of William Smith and Isabella Hope, on 27 May 1851 at Wesleyan Methodist, Dural, NSW
Death: Charlotte Williams died in 1919 at Parramatta, NSW
 

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Robert b. 1828 ? is not on this tree:

William Smith
M, #192, b. 1784, d. 30 September 1865
Birth: William Smith was born in 1784 at ENG.
Marriage: He married Isabella Hope on 7 September 1812 at St. Johns Church of England, Parramatta, NSW
Death: William Smith died on 30 September 1865 at Waitara, NSW
Family: Isabella Hope d. 4 Nov 1864
William Smith b. 1813, d. 1854
James Smith b. 1816, d. 1894
Charles Smith b. 23 Jul 1818, d. 2 Apr 1889
Reuben Smith b. 7 Apr 1833, d. 11 Sep 1869
 

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Marriage
V1849354 34C/1849 SMITH ROBERT - BRADLEY RACHAEL CT

Birth 6785/1856 SMITH JORDAN S - ROBERT - RACHEL - PARRAMATTA

Marriage
1751/1878 SMITH JORDAN S - CRAIG CAROLINE F - PADDINGTON

Birth 2542/1881 SMITH LOTTIE F - JORDAN S - CAROLINE F - SYDNEY
 

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Isabella was said to be on the 'Duke of Portland' in 1807 as a free settler, it is also said she ran away with a servant. Interestingly there is a James Hope (alias Holme) on the same ship, possibly a relative. :rolleyes:
 

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I don't know where the BROWN comes in. Maiden name said to be HOPE but the marriage seems to fit with her has BROWN.

1812 marriage to William SMITH - I can't see a Permission to Marry.

If he arrived 1810 and 'Life' then I presume there would have been an application.
 

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