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William SWAN

DaveHam9

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Hello,

James SWAN b. 29 Sep 1782 c. 29 Sep 1782 Markinch, Fife
- parents David SWAN & Margaret GROUNDIESTONE

1861
Address New Row St, Dunfirmline Burgh
James Swan aged 78, Pattern Card Cutter b. Mittown-Babgoner, Fifeshire [Milton of Balgonie]
William Swan (son) aged 50, Pattern Card Cutter (Emp 3 female Sor) b. Dunfirmline

Death: 30 Sep 1864; New Row, Dunfermline James Swan; pattern card cutter; widower of Margaret Stewart; age 82; parents David Swan, brewer, deceased and Margaret Swan M.S. Grandison, deceased; witness William Swan, son.

Possible but I think not the right death:

1874 SWAN WILLIAM M 68 CUPAR /FIFE 420/00 0071

I'd like a look up for William in 1871 please.

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Hi Dave,
You are right to discard the Cupar one, he was a farmer born 1815 in Cupar.
But can't find your William, these are the only ones coming up and none born Dunfermline or with the same occupation.

Household SWAN, William 1811 60 M Renfrew Renfrewshire VIEW N/A
Household SWAN, William 1806 65 M Torthorwald Dumfriesshire VIEW N/A
Household SWAN, William 1815 56 M Parish of Kemback Fife VIEW N/A
Household SWAN, William 1812 59 M St Andrews Midlothian VIEW N/A
Household SWAN, William 1810 61 M St Clement Forfarshire (Angus) VIEW N/A

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Hello Barbara,

Thanks.

Previous census stick with Fife and occupation. Second time around with this one just in case we stumble over a stile. :biggrin:


1841
Address New Row, Dunfermline
James Swan aged 55 b. Fife, Pattern card Catter [cutter]
William Swan aged 30 b. Fife, Pattern card Catter [cutter]
Mary Morison aged 20 b. Fife, Occupation F.S.

1851
Civil Parish Dumfirmline
Address New Row 6
James Swan aged 76 b Markines, Fife, Damark Cattew Bard Cutter [67?][Markinch]
William Swan aged 40 b Dumfirmline, Damark Cattew Bard Cutter
Mary Morrison aged 30 b Auchertool, Fife, Damark Cattew Bard Cutter [Damask Pattern Card Cutter]
One more and I could throw a die.

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So it looks like a death between 30 Sep 1864 and 1871 but nothing fits.

This one seems the first of three sons:

Henry Swan b. 31 Dec 1780 c. 7 Jun 1781 Markinch, Fife
- parents David SWAN & Margaret GROUNDIESTONE

but again I can't find the marriage of David and Margaret or a birth/baptism for either or a death for either.

This is another of my direct lines where I'm at a wall.

This the last I can find:

Andrew SWAN b. 11 Jul 1786 c. 23 Jul 1786 Markinch, Fife

So born before 1753 married around 1780 and died soon after 1786 is about all I can say.
 
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There is a William Swan dying in Kirkcaldy in 1864 with no age attached so could be him. A wee bit closer than Cupar.

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That William is a housekeeper in Kirkcaldy in the 1871 born 1871 and doesn't look like him.

This death will be Andrew tho

1 1857 SWAN ANDREW GRANDISON M 71 MARKINCH /FIFE 447/00 0070

When you have some money saved to buy vouchers!

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Thanks Barbara.

Yes, that would be Andrew. Seems they only had 3 sons.

I'll have to wait a bit. I spent some money a few days ago on a marriage and a death in England trying to sort out my BLACKLEY line a bit more.

I've looked before and again and I can't see a death that fits for William.

I've seen about 5 variations of Grundiestone. Possibly 6 if you count a grand daughter's middle name of Brotherstone. :rolleyes:
 

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Probable death of Andrew's spouse - still can't find marriage or her maiden name:

1861
Registration Number: 447
Registration district: Markinch
Civil parish: Markinch
County: Fife
Occupation:
ED: 11
Household schedule number: 76
Line: 24
Roll: CSSCT1861_59
Address: Street Milton Balgavie [Balgonie]
Household Members: Name Age
Locky Swan Head F 83 Abbotshall, Fife Annuitant
Death 1864 Lochie SWAN ( ?) Markinch, Fife Age ?
 

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1841
Piece: SCT1841/447 Place: Markinch -Fife Enumeration District: 12
Civil Parish: Markinch Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: Milton
Folio: 0 Page: 16
Address: Milton of Balgonie
Surname First name(s) *** Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
SWAN Andrew M 50 Ag. Labourer Fife
SWAN Lochie F 55 Fife
LOCKHART George M 55 Flax Spinner Fife
BARCLAY Elizabeth F 40 Flax Spinner Ireland
BARCLAY James M 20 Machine Maker Apprentice Fife
MCDOUGAL Janet F 70 Flax Spinner Ireland
and others on next page

Perhaps it was 59 rounded down to 55.
 

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1841
Piece: SCT1841/447 Place: Markinch -Fife Enumeration District: 12
Civil Parish: Markinch Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: Milton
Folio: 0 Page: 16
Address: Milton of Balgonie
Surname First name(s) *** Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
SWAN Henry M 60 Hand Loom Weaver Fife
SWAN Cecilla F 25 Fife
SWAN Ann F 20 Fife
SWAN Andrew M 18 Hand Loom Weaver Fife

Henry didn't make it to 1851. I have an unconfirmed death for him 29 Dec 1843 Markinch - given to me some years ago.
 

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I suspect that Henry married twice and that Ann has to be the 2nd:

name: Andrew Swan
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 23 Sep 1822
baptism/christening place: MARKINCH,FIFE,SCOTLAND
birth date: 05 Sep 1822
birthplace:
death date:
name note:
race:
father's name: Henry Swan
father's birthplace:
father's age:
mother's name: Ann Lindsay
mother's birthplace:
mother's age:
indexing project (batch) number: C11447-7
system origin: Scotland-ODM
source film number: 1040179
reference number:
 

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