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William THOMAS/Mary SMITH - where before 1851?

brentor boy

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In 1851 William Thomas and wife Mary were living in Llangattock, Brecon with children George and Priscilla. William is shown as age 46, born Boss (Ross?), Herefordshire. Mary is 27, born Shifnal(?), Salop

By 1861 Mary is a widow, living in Pantywaun, Gelligaer, with George and Priscilla, and also Joseph and Mary. She is then shown as age 35, born Blackrod, Lancs.

In 1871 Mary is still in Pantywaun, living with Priscilla (married), Joseph and Mary. Age given as 44, born Blackrod.

George was born somewhere in Wales(each census different place recorded) circa 1847. Priscilla's birth certificate shows Mary's maiden name as Smith.

I have a certificate for a William Thomas/Mary Smith married Glasbury, nr Hay-on-Wye, April 1847, but not entirely convinced that is the same couple. A William Thomas and Mary Smith were married in Merthyr Tydfil in 1848 but apparently not to each other. I can find no other likely unions - assuming they were married!

The certificate shows William as a bachelor, a sadler, living St Mary's, Brecon, son of Richard, a labourer. Mary, a spinster, was living in Glasbury, daughter of Charles, a potter. Both were "of full age". Witnesses:- Thomas Powell, Thomas Smart, Margaret Waugh, and R J(?) Larkin.

Any suggestions as to how I might establish the identities of William and Mary more precisely would be most welcome
 

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Hi Bretnor Boy,

Going back to the 1841 census and putting in yob birth 1826 with 2yrs either side brings up 34 Mary Smiths in Shropshire (not counting those who have moved out of the county). Three are in the civil parish of Shiffnall (one born out of county). It might be worth getting the marriage certificate for the entry you found, as the marriage witnesses may be relatives. The other Mary Smiths would probaly have married by 1851/61, so a process of elminination by looking these up on the census and matching the marriage on the marriage index. Hope this is of help. :)
 
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Thanks Julie.

I have been looking for Mary in Blackrod on the basis that in the later censuses she has given this as her place of birth. Perhaps unwisely I had assumed that the 1851 census was completed from information provided by William who might not have been as certain of his facts. I shall now have to take a closer look at the Shiffnall references you have given. Pity Mary's name could not have been a bit more distinctive!
 

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