William Turnbull/Mary Wilson

[barbarajoh]

Looking for arrival of Wm and Mary. Wm born around 1800 in Wilton, Roxburghshire and Mary born around 1794 at nearby Hawick. They both die in Marshall Mount, NSW When Wm dies he is aged 77 on 1 April 1876 and his son George says his father has been in NSW 19 years so looking anytime between 1851 and 1858 for them on a ship. Mary dies in October the same year. Their sons Robert, John and James also are in Australia. Robert having arrived first with his wife Elizabeth Wilson. Daughter Ann was transported to Tasmania in the 1850s too for concealing a pregnancy.

It is the arrival of Wm and Mary I am looking for but know it may be impossible. And any mention of William's parents. His death says Robert Turnbull, shepherd and mother unknown. So many trees have Robert Turnbull/Mary Laidlaw but that Robert was a shoemaker and his children all born Hawick not Wilton.

 

[DaveHam9]

Found this so far Barbara.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-DT77-QH7?i=1&cc=1542665


Occupation for William?

 

[DaveHam9]

Oh. Way too early.

No William or Mary the right age on Assisted to NSW list.

 

[DaveHam9]

How many children?

LONDON
BRIG OF SYDNEY, MOFFAT, MASTER, BURTHEN 198 TONS
FROM THE PORT OF MELBOURNE TO SYDNEY, NEW SOUTH WALES, 13TH SEPTEMBER 1857
...
TURNBULL MR PASSENGER GENTLEFOLK
TURNBULL MRS PASSENGER GENTLEFOLK
TURNBULL CHILD 1 PASSENGER GENTLEFOLK
TURNBULL CHILD 2 PASSENGER GENTLEFOLK

 

[DaveHam9]

This does not fit with the above.

Unassisted to Vic.
Age Fiche Month Origin Page Port Ship Year Name
A 139 DEC - 8 B INVINCIBLE 1857 TURNBULL, WM
A 139 DEC - 8 B INVINCIBLE 1857 TURNBULL, ---- MRS

 

[barbarajoh]

Sorry Dave, went for a walk! Don't think they would be gentlefolk. He was an ag lab in the 1851 census, a labourer at his death. Robert went with his wife on the Blonde in 1849 Plymouth to Port Jackson and George went London to Geelong, Port Phillip in 1852 I think James and John went sometime in the 1850s but not sure if with parents or singly. John born 1835 and James just before or after that.

Thanks for help

 

[DaveHam9]

Not sure about 'gentlefolk' as half the passengers were listed as that and the other half as miners.

Re the 1857 one to Vic. age is just recorded as A= Adult.

 

[DaveHam9]

Unassisted to Vic.
20 4 AUG SCOT 2 B AUSTRALIA 1852 TURNBULL, GEO


- 51 SEP - 4 B STAR OF THE EAST 1853 TURNBULL, JOHN
20 51 SEP SCOT 9 B IVANHOE 1853 TURNBULL, JOHN
21 130 SEP ENG 7 B MARCO POLO 1857 TURNBULL, JOHN
25 111 SEP ENG 4 B ALMORA 1856 TURNBULL, JOHN


- 51 SEP - 4 B STAR OF THE EAST 1853 TURNBULL, JAMES
20 163 JUN SCOT 3 B BRUCE 1859 TURNBULL, JAMES
29 143 MAR ENG 3 B ROYAL CHARTER 1858 TURNBULL, JAMES

 

[barbarajoh]

George went out on the Ann Thomson sorry should have said that. Star of the East looks possible for John and James. Back to the gentlefolk, James and John would be adults by then so think No4 can be discounted too thought the date is good.

 

[DaveHam9]

I'm not sure if the fiche at the State Library will have much to add re Star of the East. Don't know why age is missing.

 

[barbarajoh]

No probably not much and really it is Wm's parents I am trying to find although I know this is maybe not going to happen!
Thanks again

 

[DaveHam9]

1853
PORT PHILLIP HEADS.
September 23 Star of the East, from Liverpool, 75 days.

Just a few passengers.

September 23.-Star of the East, ship, 1219 tons,
Robertson, from Liverpool 7th July. Four hundred
and ninety passengers.

 

[barbarajoh]

Poor souls

 

[DaveHam9]

The next entry in Trove said 500. No passenger list published. The ship left soon after for Sydney and China.

No Turnbulls on the Outward list from Melbourne who fit.

 

[barbarajoh]

Not published anywhere?

 

[DaveHam9]

Fiche No 51 at State Library is the only list I know of. Page 4 for the 2x Turnbull.

 

[barbarajoh]

Thanks Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

Libraries due to open on 1 June but have no idea how they will manage the resources. The State Library say any books taken off the shelf go into quarantine but they didn't say for how long. No idea re objects like individual micro fiche or micro films.

 

[barbarajoh]

Yes difficult. So will it be a race to get a book before it goes into quarantine. Not sure if virus stay longer on fiche but assume they might

 

[DaveHam9]

It does not stay on hard services very long. Don't know if they will issue gloves.

Rolls of film might not be too much of a problem but microfiche could be a problem with dozens in each envelope and you have to flick though them to find the one fiche you need.

I have built up over the past year a huge list of different lookups at the State Library.