Williams in sheffield.

[Ndemaine3]

Keith Williams (my grandad) born in sheffield, haven't got the exact date but would probably be around 1940 give or take a couple of years. His father george Williams married elsie dennell. As well as having Keith Williams they also had a daughter Margaret Williams. I have little knowledge of elsie's side but none of George Williams. Would love to know who his dad was and who he married and his grandfather. Any information would be much appreciated.

Nicole

 

[ptjw7]

George H Williams married Elsie Dennell Dec Q 1924 in Ecclesall Bierlow
George b 30 Mar 1903 - Elsie b 23 Oct 1897

Joan M Williams b 13 Nov 1927 Ecclesall Bierlow

Maurice Williams b mar q 1935 Sheffield d mar q 1935 Sheffield

Keith Williams B 7 Mar 1939 Sheffield

Peter

 

[emeltee]

George Henry Williams born Jun 1903 Woodbridge 4a 1107 mmn Ellis.

In 1911 Census he is living in Ecclesall Bierlow with parents Maurice and Bessie and family. Maurice is 44 a Musician Army Pensioner born Manchester. Bessie is 38 born Norwich.

Maurice Williams married Bessie Rebecca Ellis Jun 1894 Norwich 4b 205

The marriage cert for George's marriage to Elsie states that Maurice is deceased. He died Mar 1924 Ecclesall B 9c 560 aged 57

Emeltee

 

[Ndemaine3]

Hi Peter, hi emeltee,

Thanks for your replies. Your information is correct, my grandad was born on 7th March 1939 and the rest my nan confirmed. I was wondering about elsie dennell, i'm curious as to where she was born? Also, I'm confused as to who joan M Williams is?

Thank you.

 

[emeltee]

Joan M Williams Dec 1927 Eccleshall B 9c 653 mmn Dennell

She is a daughter of George and Elsie

Elsie Dennell birth
Dec 1897 Eccleshal Bierlow 9c 461 mmn Smith

Marriage
Walter Dennell/Charlotte Smith dec 1892 Sheffield 9c 910

All this information is freely available on FreeBMD.org or on the GRO site (you will have to register first but it's free)

Emeltee

 

[Ndemaine3]

Hello.

The only sister of my grandad was margaret williams? Does it say when Joan M Williams died?
Ok, i'll have a look on freembd.org

Thank you.

 

[Ndemaine3]

I tried searching freembd.org but for some reason it wont show me anything, but thank you anyway.

Nicole.

 

[emeltee]

It won't show you anything if you are looking for a Joan M Williams as Joan married a Herbert Elsworth in Sheffield in 1945

Joan Margaret Elsworth died Mar 1978 Sheffield 3 1532 dob 13 Nov 1927

The dob matches that given in the 1939 register.

Emeltee

 

[Ndemaine3]

No i mean it wouldn't show me any information at all for anyone, but i've actually worked it out and i'm having a look now.
Joan margaret williams, i was confused you see when you said Joan.
I think everyone called her magaret instead of joan, i don't know why but that is my grandads sister and she was around 10 years older than him so it's correct.

Thanks emeltee.

 

[Ndemaine3]

Hi,

Could anyone be able to find me the parents of maurice williams b. 1867, i've searched for hours on end and i can't find anything, i'd really apprectiate it.

Thank you.

 

[emeltee]

I've checked both the Gro site and FreeBMD from1865-1869 and nothing coming up. Nor can I find a baptism. I did, however, find this burial -

Maurice Williams buried Christ Church, Heeley, Sheffield 1 April 1924 aged 57. Address 8 Court, 3 House, Oak Street, Heeley.

57 in 1924 gives a birth year of 1867.

Emeltee

 

[Ndemaine3]

Thanks emeltee.

I found that also. It's strange that there's no information on his birth or family. I don't know where else to look.

Thanks anyway.
Nicole

 

[gibbo]

1901 UK census
Name Maurice Williams
Event Place Sprowston, Norfolk, England
County Norfolk
Civil Parish Sprowston
Ecclesiastical Parish St Mary & St Margart With St Cuthbert
Sub-District Sprowston
Registration District St Faiths
Residence Note Wroxham Road Cobbs Row
Age 35
Occupation ASYLUM ATTENDANT
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Birth Year (Estimated) 1866
Birthplace Manchester, Lancashire
Schedule Type 171
Page Number 27
Maurice Williams Head M 35 Manchester, Lancashire
Bessie Williams Wife F 26 Norwich, Norfolk
Elizabeth Williams Daughter F 6 Norwich, Norfolk
Eva Williams Daughter F 4 Colchester, Essex
Maurice Williams Son M 3 Colchester, Essex
Alfred Williams Son M 2 Dublin Ireland
Alfred Ellis Lodger M 22 Norwich, Norfolk
Beatrice Ellis Lodger F 22 Norwich, Norfolk

Maybe Alfred Ellis is Bessie's brother??

 

[gibbo]

Could anyone be able to find me the parents of maurice williams b. 1867

Just wondering if its worth checking under Morris Williams, Maurice and Morris sound similar.

 

[emeltee]

I've tried that but still nothing.

Emeltee

 

[emeltee]

Having widened the search slightly there is this

Morris Williams Dec 1865 Salford 8d 44 no mmn

Emeltee

 

[Ndemaine3]

1901 UK census
Name Maurice Williams
Event Place Sprowston, Norfolk, England
County Norfolk
Civil Parish Sprowston
Ecclesiastical Parish St Mary & St Margart With St Cuthbert
Sub-District Sprowston
Registration District St Faiths
Residence Note Wroxham Road Cobbs Row
Age 35
Occupation ASYLUM ATTENDANT
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Birth Year (Estimated) 1866
Birthplace Manchester, Lancashire
Schedule Type 171
Page Number 27
Maurice Williams Head M 35 Manchester, Lancashire
Bessie Williams Wife F 26 Norwich, Norfolk
Elizabeth Williams Daughter F 6 Norwich, Norfolk
Eva Williams Daughter F 4 Colchester, Essex
Maurice Williams Son M 3 Colchester, Essex
Alfred Williams Son M 2 Dublin Ireland
Alfred Ellis Lodger M 22 Norwich, Norfolk
Beatrice Ellis Lodger F 22 Norwich, Norfolk

Maybe Alfred Ellis is Bessie's brother??

Yes, alfred is bessie's brother.