YOUNGMAN family

[DaveHam9]

Hello,

Joseph YOUNGMAN & Susan HAMPTON
Marriage: 10 Oct 1826 Kidderminster, Worcester

John b. 1827 Kidderminster
Edward b. 1828 Bramfield, Suffolk

I'd like a look up for the family in 1841 and 1851 please.

Joseph may have died between 1841 and 1851. Not sure about Susan/ Susannah.

Regards,

Dave

 

[barbarajoh]

Your usual difficult one, Dave - lol

This could be Edward. Can't find Joseph

1841 census - household transcription
Person: YOUNGMAN, Edward
Address: Street, Bramfield

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Name *** Age Birth
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WHITMAN, William M 44 1797 VIEW
WHITMAN, Susan F 30 1811 Suffolk VIEW
WHITMAN, Mary F 18 1823 Suffolk VIEW
WHITMAN, Hapsabeth F 12 1829 Suffolk VIEW
WHITMAN, Maria F 6 1835 Suffolk VIEW
WHITMAN, John M 4 1837 Suffolk VIEW
WHITMAN, Samuel M 0 (3 months) 1841 Suffolk VIEW
YOUNGMAN, Edward M 12 1829 Suffolk VIEW
YOUNGMAN, Elizabeth F 10 1831 Suffolk VIEW

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4 Registration District:
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Civil Parish:
Bramfield Municipal Borough:
Address:
Street, Bramfield County:
Suffolk



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Barbara

 

[barbarajoh]

A -possibility?

YOUNGMAN, Josh M 38 1803 Suffolk VIEW
YOUNGMAN, Susan F 52 1789 Suffolk VIEW

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Piece:
1031 Book/Folio:
8 Page:
11 Registration District:
Plomesgate Union

Civil Parish:
Tunstall Municipal Borough:
Address:
Dunningworth, Tunstall County:
Suffolk

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello Barbara,

Thanks for looking. I had no clue re possible sister Elizabeth.

This is john:

1851
HO107/2038/F575/p26
Constitution Hill, Kidderminster
John Youngman Head 23 Hand loom Weaver of Carpets Kidderminster
Emma Wife 23 Kidderminster
Henry Son 2 Kidderminster
Emma Dau 7m Kidderminster

 

[DaveHam9]

I have nothing to give me a clue as to where Joseph & Susan were born.

I did find this possible death:

Deaths Jun 1845
YOUNGMAN Joseph Plomesgate 12 301


That fits but if ages are right a huge difference in age.

 

[DaveHam9]

Possible:

Joseph Youngman
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening: 12 May 1805 Stanton,​ Suffolk,​ England
residence: England
parents: Joseph Youngman,​ Sarah Halls Youngman

 

[DaveHam9]

That may not be given this baptism:

Elizabeth Youngman
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening: 19 Aug 1832 Wrentham,​ Suffolk,​ England
residence: Suffolk,​ England
parents: John Youngman,​ Maria

But I can't find a baptism for Elizabeth that fits with this one:

Edward Ashford Youngman
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening: 27 Oct 1828 BRAMFIELD,​SUFFOLK,​ENGLAND
residence: Suffolk,​ England
parents: Joseph Youngman,​ Susannah

So it looks like the right Edward.

John ended up in Australia. Arrived 14 Sep 1859 John 32 Policeman Worcestershire CofE Both


Now I'll have to trace Edward and Elizabeth.

 

[DaveHam9]

Several possible deaths for Susan if we assume Suffolk but none in RD Blything.

 

[barbarajoh]

Looks like there might be an Elizabeth

here is her marriage


Charles Masterson
Groom's Birth Date: 1816
Groom's Birthplace:
Groom's Age: 36
Bride's Name: Elizabeth Youngman
Bride's Birth Date: 1831
Bride's Birthplace:
Bride's Age: 21
Marriage Date: 09 Apr 1852
Marriage Place: Bramfield,Suffolk,England
Groom's Father's Name: William Masterson
Groom's Mother's Name:
Bride's Father's Name: Joseph
Bride's Mother's Name:
Groom's Race:
Groom's Marital Status:
Groom's Previous Wife's Name:
Bride's Race:
Bride's Marital Status:
Bride's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M01200-1
System Origin: England-ODM
Source Film Number: 481073
Reference Number:


Barbara

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Barbara,

Yes, does look like it now.

I ruled her out then in again when I confirmed I had a baptism for Edward.

I think John is the only one to end up in Australia. Not 100% sure yet.

 

[barbarajoh]

Can't find Elizabeth in 61 under Masterson or anything similar.

Possibly Edward in 51?



PORTWAY, John Head Unmarried M 28 1823 Chemist & Druggist
Bury
Suffolk
YOUNGMAN, Edward Unmarried M 22 1829 Chemist & Druggist
Chelsea
Middlesex
ANDREWS, George Visitor Unmarried M 29 1822 Bank Inspector
Newport
Isle of Whight
MEARS, Ruth House Keeper Unmarried F 34 1817 General Servant
Risley
Derbyshire
KEMP, Robt G Servant Unmarried M 18 1833 Porter
Chedburgh
Suffolk

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Piece:
1792 Folio:
4 Page:
1 Registration District:
Bury Saint Edmunds

Civil Parish:
St Mary Municipal Borough:
Bury St Edmunds Address:
31, Abbeygate Street, St Mary, Bury St Edmunds County:
Suffolk








Barbara

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Barbara.

If Chelsea is correct then I can't see a baptism to fit. I can find the same one in 1881 and again it says born Chelsea. This would be the matching death but is it my Edward?

Deaths Sep 1899
Youngman Edward 71 Bury St. E. 4a 570


I can't find an Edward born Suffolk in 1881.

I can't see a death in NSW for Edward or Elizabeth.

The only YOUNGMAN listed are John and family:

YOUNGMAN Edward 8 Parsee 1859 Sydney and/or Newcastle and family Reel 2139, [4/4795]
YOUNGMAN Elizabeth 5 Parsee 1859 Sydney and/or Newcastle and family Reel 2139, [4/4795]
YOUNGMAN Emma 32 Parsee 1859 Sydney and/or Newcastle and family Reel 2139, [4/4795]
YOUNGMAN Emma 9 Parsee 1859 Sydney and/or Newcastle and family Reel 2139, [4/4795]
YOUNGMAN Henry 10 Parsee 1859 Sydney and/or Newcastle and family Reel 2139, [4/4795]
YOUNGMAN John 32 Parsee 1859 Sydney and/or Newcastle and family Reel 2139, [4/4795]

 

[barbarajoh]

Dave

There is another Edward in 1851 who is a soldier born Ipswich?

Possible?

Barbara

 

[barbarajoh]

We can rule out the chemist as he is the son of Edward and Susan in 1861

Barbara

 

[barbarajoh]

Last thing I have found on possible Edward. An Edward Youngman leaves Liverpool in 1909 for the USA and he is born 1828. He is a glass worker and single.

Barbara

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Barbara.

Yes, the Chemist is out. I'm not sure about Ipswich.

That could be either of the two born in Suffolk.

There are three born around 1829, two in Suffolk and one in Essex that I can see but possibly some baptisms missing.

Time for me to sleep on it.