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INGRAM, ALLARD & LOAN

Thanks.

I'm trying to find this marriage:

James Loan/Loane/Lone and Emma/Emily (H)allard.
 
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NSW Marriage V1828714 12/1828 HALLARD THOMAS - GILES MARY A - CJ= CofE Sydney, St James'

Reel 5003
Page -
Marriages solemnized in the Parish of St. James in the County of Cumberland in the Year 1828
No. 85
Thomas Hallard aged 34 per Larkins of the Parish of Sydney, Bachelor, a Mariner
Mary Ann Giles aged 18 of the Parish of Sydney, Spinster
married in this Church by Banns with consent of the Governor
this fifteenth day of January 1828 By me Richard Hill Chaplain
Parties signed: Thos. Allard, Mary Ann Giles her x mark
Witnesses: James Young of Elizabeth Street, Wm. Osbourn of Elizabeth Street

NSW Bap V1834860 19/1834 ALLARD HANNAH A - THOMAS - MARY - CQ= CofE Field of Mars, Marsfield, Ryde

Not found - Sequence ends at 859 then jumps to 875
 
NSW Death 2445/1871 ALLARD THOMAS - THOMAS - DIED LANE COVE ST LEONARDS * 28 Aug

Father as Thomas may or may not be correct. Born abt 1794.

NSW Marriage 6519/1894 INGRAM JOHN - LOAN AMELIA - ST LEONARDS

There is probably a connection between Thomas and Emma/Emily Allard/Hallard.

No death yet found for Emma/Emily Lone/Loane.
 
Amelia Sophia Ingram – buried 16 Nov 1918
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/15811295?searchTerm=amelia ingram
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/15811239?searchTerm=amelia ingram
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/152018473/amelia-sophia-ingram

John – July 1927
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/16392863?searchTerm=john ingram
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/152024636/john-william-ingram

John W Ingram b 1858 St Leonards – Henry Ingram (1824-1892) & Hannah Anne Allard (1834-1894) – reg 3971

Henry married 1852 Sydney to Hannah Allard – V C

Hannah
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/191773835/hannah-ann-ingram

parents Thomas Allard (1790- Aug 1871 convict) – Convicts app to marry – Thomas Hallard age 37 - 26 Dec 1827 to Mary A Giles (1808 – 1866) convict age 19 – granted

Thomas 1871 St Leonards - reg 2445

Mary 1866 St Leonards – reg 2545
 
Police Gazette 1869

James Loan summond by Sgt Tant, Tumut Police for selling spirits without a License has been fined 80 pounds and costs; in default of payment. 8 months hard labor in Goulburn Gaol - fine not paid

James Loan selling liquor without a license – 6 months hard labor tried 12 Sept 1873 Currangong – native of England, a miner b 1840 – arrived “Charles” 1865

Vic Police Gazette – Missing Friends - 1876
James Bailey Loan identical with James Loan, missing friend, is carrying on the business of a tinsmith and plumber at Cootamundra

another..

Information is requested of James Loan a native of Anahoe Co Tyrone Ireland who is said to have been in patnership with a Mr Harper in a brewery, supposed somewhere near Sydney – 10 March 1876

same paper – info on James Loan - a native of North Ireland who left home about 7 yrs ago said to carry on a brewery in Sydney…..26 April 1876
 
Hi Dave,
I am a new member, so unfamiliar with this forum, burt was directed to this page when doing INGRAM research. I have done extensive work on the Allards over the past 15 years and have compiled all the above pieces of information posted by others, plus much more , which reveal Emma Allard's complicated life. Could I ask what is your connection to Emma Allard? I am an Allard - Ingram descendant.
Kerry
 
Hi Kerry and welcome to the Forum.

I'm not a descendant. A family connected to Clifton in my large tree. As all my main lines are brick walls = no baptisms found to go back further, my tree is growing sideways.

Dave
 
Thanks Dave. I haven't researched James Loan, but I know he didn't marry Emma Allard.
I can give you information on many Allard/ Ingram facts. Emma was the youngest sister of Hannah Ingram (Allard). Emma had relationships with 5 partners which produced children, but only married Crampton and Packett. She died as Emma Packett. Her parents were Thomas Allard (Hallard) and Mary Ann Giles. Amelia Sophia Loan married her first cousin, John William Ingram.
 
Thanks.

Parents of Sophia/Amelia born abt 1870 ?


NSW Marriage 6519/1894 INGRAM JOHN - LOAN AMELIA - ST LEONARDS * 17 Feb 1894

No. 147 22 Fitzroy St, North Sydney, N.S.W. February 17th 1894
John Ingram - Bachelor - North Sydney N.S.W. - Painter - 35 - Chandos St, North Sydney N.S.W. - Henry Ingram & Hannah Allard - Painter
Amelia [Sophia inserted] Loan - Spinster - Tumut N.S.W. - - - 24 - Middle St, Marrickville, N.S.W. - James Loan & Emma Allard - Brewer
Parties signed: Witnesses: Robert Charles Ingram, Amelia Emma Ingram
By me J. Bennet Anderson Officiating Minister
 
Parents of Amelia Sophia Loan/ Ingram.
James Loan, who I believe was born around 1840 in Northern Ireland &
Emma Allard born ~1845 at Lane Cove, Sydney. Not all the Allard children were baptised and, as the date is pre- civil registrations, there is no official record. On her father's death certificate in Aug 1871, Emma is listed as 25years old. She was born between Rachel, 1843 and William 1847, who were baptised.
 
Thanks.

Bap V1834860 19/1834 ALLARD HANNAH A - THOMAS - MARY - CQ= CofE Field of Mars, Marsfield, Ryde * Not found - Sequence jumps from 859 to 875.

Who is the witness Amelia Emma Ingram ?

Robert Charles is a brother.
 
Yes 1870 in index, but I was told by a relative the earlier date. Wondering if she was not registered until 1870 after the family came to Sydney from Tumut. What is your source for the date 24 April? The later date corresponds with her death age of 48, however.

In reference to earlier question
Robert Charles and Amelia Emma Ingram were younger siblings of John William, her husband.
 
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